Posted on 01/27/2005 5:09:57 PM PST by Cornpone
DUBLIN -- U.S. President George W. Bush is descended from Norman nobleman Richard de la Clare, known as Strongbow, who led the invasion of Ireland in the 12th century, genealogists said yesterday.
Mr. Bush is also descended from the Celtic king of the Irish province of Leinster, Dermot McMurrough, who was denounced as a traitor and whose daughter Aoife married Strongbow. The Bush family is already aware that it is descended from Norman gentry who lived in England in the late Middle Ages. But Irish historian Ann Griffin Bernstorff found the Irish genealogical link by working on the Ross, one of the biggest tapestries in Europe that retraces the birth of New Ross, founded in 1207 by William Marshall, son of Strongbow.
Separated by 30 generations, Mr. Bush is a direct descendant of William Marshall, who was married to Isabelle de Clare.
"It's all very intriguing really," Ms. Griffin Bernstorff told the Irish Times.
"We had heard rumours that this was a possibility, then one of our committee members had a Republican friend in Chicago," she said. "We got the genealogy chart from there and made the link to the de Clare family. It's an ancient Irish family, one of the oldest on the island, stretching back to the mists of time."
Mr. Bush is also descended from Anne Marbury Hutchinson, an English Puritan who arrived in America in 1634 aboard the Griffin and who settled in Boston.
According to the family tree established by Anne and Alexis Bernstorff, Anne Marbury was a direct descendant of Anglo-Norman nobleman John the Strange, and before him Gilbert the Red, Gilbert de Clare, count of Gloucester and Hereford.
Gilbert the Red, who married Joan of England, daughter of King Edward I, was none other than the grandson of William Marshall, whom the Plantagenets called the finest flower of chivalry.
Always great to hear from friends on the other side of the pond...Tá fáilte romhat.
If this is true, it will give me an interesting story for one of the publications I work on though! :-)
I come from a long line of bachelors, myself.
Cheney is a descendant of the House of LargeLoins.
I am supposedly descended from Elizabeth Plantagenet. Edward I was "Longshanks" of Braveheart fame. Joan was his second child. Elizabeth was his 12th.
Whatcha gonna do about those old, wild genes! I am descended from King Haakon, through Somerled, got all these raging, politically incorrect, wild barbarian antecedants!
In other words, I can't help it, it is My destiny! If You have an urge to be queer, O.K., must be YOUR genes.
I have an urge to be really free, sorry, I just can't help it. It is My fate!
BUAIDH NO BAS, MACDHUGAILL FOREVER!
There are two distinct varieties of Homo Sapiens on this Earth, one of them is gonna have to to go away! I take strength from the knowledge that My President comes from good stock. Thank God no one is talking about "French Connections"
So, does this mean the next time the left attack W and call the Iraq war just a needless invasion, we can say "Well, he couldn't help it, it's in his genes."? Thereby totally disarming the left because, after all, isn't that the way they think? "Well, if it is genetic, then that's OK."
There was two De Clare sisters who married one, on my dads side, and the other on my moms side. The whole works also intermarried, often cousins to cousins over and over again.
It was the Bruces who gained control over the Scottish Crown who also were Normans-which actually means "Norse Men" if broken down. The Bruce name back then meant "The Cadet" or something like that.
Lots of problems in heridity over that interbreeding..for a lack of better word.
So in short, Bush can ID himself with all the royals in England and Europe as can about fifteen bejillion other people. A very large majority of folks that came over in the 1600s were of noble birth in someway. Being a lot were Puritans, they left to escape the persecutions. Remember that Oliver Cromwell was around and all at that time. After he started to loose power, they were worried about another Bloody Mary episode and got out fast and rightly so as they really got to waring within the UK with the covenanters and all that.
Bush: Ay, fight and you may die, run and you'll live. At least a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom.
Kerry: The trouble with America is that it's full of Americans.
;^ )
Red states ping.
He was a liberal.
When Adam delved and Eve twained who then was the gentleman? Chaucer
Is he the one who killed himself? I know Kerry actually celebrated something across the street where an ancestor of his committed suicide.
Ol Gilbert "the Red" must have had a few daughters.
Eleanor de Clare married Hugh DeSpencer who is on my moms side
Margaret de Clare married Hugh De Audley who daughter married into the Staffods of Staffordshire England.
Of Course of Gilbert might have had several wives..gonna have to look into this bit of history
John the Strange: You tit! I soiled my armor I was so scared.
He was the early day founder of the liberal movement.
LOL.
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