Posted on 01/27/2005 8:22:19 AM PST by ConservativeStLouisGuy
20 minutes on the net then walk the dog. 20 minutes on the net then clean the apartment.
No there is no comparison between a phoney threat and the real threat revealed on 9/11.
I have no concerns about the complaints of abuse from the ACLU or the CAIR clowns and have seen nothing that was out of line. The lawyer arrested because of the Spain bombing was not plucked arbitrarily out of the thin air but was arrested on extremely persuasive evidence then cleared upon further investigation.
As for your Hillary scare you'll have to do better than that since any country that elects her has already been gutted and lost its bearings. Laws that are necessary now are not to be junked because of vague concerns about the future. We need the ability to track these traitors. Those complaining about it in Congress are barely outside that catagory themselves and most of them opposing it are reflexively anti-American and consciously aid our enemies on a daily basis.
Goering's complaint makes no sense because the round-up occurred sooner than he had anticipated (not that he had police power out of Prussia anyway) so those who fled would have had more time to escape had the Nazis waited.
Late night TV the other night had a quote from the show "In America the majority does not pick its President" Directors get their point across in a sleaze way. Hollywood is full of them.
Hitler considered communists a threat, just as much as we did in the 50s, as much as we consider terrorists a threat now. Of course his reasons for pushing for the extra powers are far more insidious than Bush's.
Those complaining about it in Congress are barely outside that catagory themselves and most of them opposing it are reflexively anti-American and consciously aid our enemies on a daily basis.
That's exactly the attitude I was talking about during the stunted debate of the PATRIOT Act. "You're anti-American if you don't vote for it." Such attitudes have no place in the debate of the merits of the Act, and unduly pressure our representatives to vote in a way possibly not consistent with their views on the balance of civil rights and security. Such pressures inevitably shift the balance away from civil rights and towards security and government power.
Goering's complaint makes no sense because the round-up occurred sooner than he had anticipated (not that he had police power out of Prussia anyway) so those who fled would have had more time to escape had the Nazis waited.
Not quite. Göring envisioned a wide-laid net to be sprung to trap all of the (until then unsuspecting) communists quickly. Hitler ordered the arrests before Göring was ready to trap all at once, allowing those not immediately siezed to get away. Read his testimony at the trials.
Benefits of the Parliamentary System.
Yes - but the NAZI Party did not win a majority.
I prefer to concentrate on English comprehension first, Grams. You said Hitler was elected I still maintain that he was not. Chancellor is not an elected office so his being in the office regardless of its weight was not the premiership.
Do us all a favor and dazzle us with your version of how he went from chancellor, to premier to dictator in a matter of weeks, and how the people who voted for Von Hindenberg without knowledge of his imminent demise thus voted for Hitler as dictator by induction.
I am always eager to witness a brilliant mind at work first hand, Grams.
A "Historically accurate thread" BUMP!
Your figures are correct. Personally, I don't this Rush is lying. I think your first conclusion was correct, he not a historian and does not understand how a Parlimentary type of election works.
My German history book confirms this. Unfortunately, I didn't have it with me earlier. It isn't until the 12 Nov 33 election that my history book states it wasn't a free and fair election due to the NSDAP being the only allowed party. All elections prior that got Hitler into power were considered free and fair elections.
Interestingly, in the comparisons between the Reichstag fire and 9/11, my book says the Nazis claimed they found materials proving that the communists were building terror groups to hit public buildings, poison public kitchens, and to take wives and children of ministers and other high figures hostage (rough translation from the German). We'll never know if this was true since they rounded up all the communists, but we do know that hitting public buildings was definitely on the mind of at least one communist.
It will be interesting to see if he makes any follow up comments on this. I'm sure he has received numerous emails telling him in detail the results of the 1932 German election. By the way, the book that I originally cited, "Hitler", by Joachim Fest, is one of the best history of the Nazi era. And it was written by a German.
Like I said in my first post, this is only very technically correct. I've been through a couple elections in a parliamentary country (Germany), and while the people do vote for their party, make no doubt that everyone has in his or her mind who that means electing as Chancellor. A candidate for chancellor runs as much of an individual-style campaign as a presidential candidate does here. The news focuses on the two people who would be chancellor and frames the debate in that way. Everyone talked about how the floods in Dresden helped Schröder win the election, not how it helped the SPD.
Thanks, I just found it on Amazon.de. I wonder if they ship to the US?
BTW, avoid the Hitler documentaries on the History Channel, as they're full of speculation and unfounded claims. My German wife and I were LOL watching it. They'll find one crackpot who wrote something strange, then have another person on saying "Research has shown that...", referring to that one crackpot. That tactic gives it a baseless aura of authority.
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