Posted on 01/25/2005 8:40:45 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
Spain's defense minister on Tuesday rejected Pope John Paul II's criticism of its Socialist government, which wants to legalize gay marriage and streamline laws on divorce and abortion, and he said some church positions go against the teachings of Jesus Christ.
``Faith is not something a government can impose. It is not something that it is up to the state, but rather to people,'' Defense Minister Jose Bono told Spanish radio, the news agency Efe reported.
He said some of the church's positions, such as its opposition to homosexuality and use of condoms, go against the message of Jesus Christ, according to the report.
``Today, Christ would be more worried about the 25,000 children who die each day of hunger or in wars. I think Christ would side with those who are peaceful,'' Bono was quoted as saying.
Bono is believed to be the only practicing Catholic in the Spanish Cabinet.
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The irony of a government official telling the Pope what the teachings of the Catholic faith are apparently escape him.
Now, more than ever!
I guess we can say that the Spanish Civil War is finally over.....and the Socialists won.
Spain........slipping into turd world status?
Fudge packers of the world, UNITE.
Semper Fi
Then there's none.
But can they find another one soon enough to save them?
This is the most amazing statement in the article in my opinion.
Wild guess, he doesn't actually quote any Scripture to back up his assertion.
Bono is believed to be the only practicing Catholic in the Spanish Cabinet.
Needs more practice.
got an author on that? I'm also looking for good English-language bios of Moscardo & Calvo Sotelo.
Yup. Scripture is full of Christ's homilies about the benefits of homosexuality and condoms. Really, almost anyplace you open the New Testament, Christ is going on and on about how great bathhouses and gay parades and drag queens are.
Maybe if the socialists would actually read the Bible, they wouldn't sound so silly when they lecture Christians about it.
Let the pointy head socialits get what they want.
In a few years, they'll wake up (like Netherlands, and other European countries slowly are) and realize that they lost their country.
No morals, anything goes, BIG government waste and social programs, higher unemployment, no "family values" to speak of, and a 'history' that is long gone and will never return.
A 'new' Spain, that is sterilzed by a grim cloud of socialism, no warmth, no love, no goodness, and overrun with a selfish people who feel they have the right to everything and the responsabilty of nothing.
And they'll deserve every minute of it.
Good riddenance.
Lets just focus on Iraq and Afganistan. Spain can self-destruct, there are MORE than a few nations that are coming of age to take the place of such a fundamentally defective government (elected by the people)... so again. They deserve every bit of it.
Another irony is: a member of the culture of death decrying death, in the name of Christ, no less.
Materialist ideology murdered more people in the 20th century than did all religions combined.
Am I wrong or were these idiots losing before the Madrid bombings? Now we know why.
Is the Christ of "today" different than the one of yesterday or tomorrow? And, since when does He get "worried?" And is He not able to consider more than one group of the suffering at a time?
Apparently the 'leaders' of Spain don't know the God of the bible. They must be serving a different god.....and I think I know what name he goes by....
http://www.isi.org/books/bookdetail.aspx?id=f488432f-e90f-4b1e-a0ed-38b5b4a6ea6c
Buy the above book!
To be clear, the picture I posted is not a book, I don't think.
How many children died of hunger because Hussein and his cronies used the money for their food to build palaces? How many children died in Hussein's brutal suppression of any dissent? What did the Spanish socialists due about? Tuck tail and run. Cowards.
Oh I've got that one. I've got a whole shelf of Guerra Civil books, but most of them are written from that "romantic" leftist perspective. Thanks for nothing, Hemingway.
Reminds me of my time in Germany, sadly enough.
Thanks for the ping. Unfortunately, every book I know about is in Spanish. There are several very good authors, such as Pio Moa, who have been presenting the "other side" (which, lest we forget, was the winning side) in the Civil War, but none of their work has been translated.
I think Stanley Payne is the most even-handed of the American historians of Spain, btw.
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