Posted on 01/24/2005 5:57:54 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
Thx for the ping, Jan...good article.
You're welcome. One of the best I've read in a while!
All true. But I thought FDR had nixed all of Churchill's attempts to put troops into Eastern Europe (eg the Balkans invasion proposal that was mocked as a Gallipoli redux) considerably before Atlee was elected. Without troops on the ground, Yalta was a fait accompli.
I fear it's more because we're so ......
wimpy
Chicken shit
infatuated with the status quo
fearful of change
Hopkins, Hiss et al were who I had in mind when I posted. Here is an article from year 2000 about Hopkins. From http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/1/5/163140. You can find lots of other references by running a google on "Harry Hopkins Communist."
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Some day historians will have to acknowledge that Harry Hopkins was the greatest traitor in American history, overshadowing Benedict Arnold by far. Arnold, at least, was open in his betrayal, and his potential for damaging the American cause was small by comparison. Hopkins was a Soviet agent who pretended to put America’s interests first while secretly advancing the interests of Stalin.
In his 1990 book "KGB: The Inside Story," Oleg Gordievsky, a high-level KGB defector, reported damning information about Hopkins he heard from Iskhak Akhmerov, an undercover spymaster who controlled the KGB’s "illegal" agents in the U.S. during World War II. He said that Akhmerov had described Harry Hopkins as "the most important of all Soviet wartime agents in the United States." He said that other KGB officers in the directorate in charge of illegals and the U.S. experts in the KGB’s code section, "all agreed that Hopkins had been an agent of major significance."
Gordievsky’s co-author, Christopher Andrew, was not comfortable in publishing this charge. He said Gordievsky had gradually come to believe that Hopkins was an "unconscious" agent, meaning that Hopkins did not realize that Akhmerov was a Soviet spymaster. Akhmerov, who served as a liaison between Hopkins and Stalin, had no open connection with the Soviet embassy or any official Soviet organization in the U.S.
His cover is believed to have been running a clothing store in New York. He used at least three different aliases in dealing with the agents under his control. Hopkins was not so naive as to think that a small businessman who could deliver and receive messages from Stalin was anything other than a high-ranking Soviet intelligence agent. Hopkins never told anyone about this strange little man who was in close touch with the Soviet dictator. He didn’t ask the FBI to investigate him because he knew he was dealing with a Soviet spy.
Further confirmation of Hopkins’ conscious collaboration with the KGB came with the publication last year of "The Sword and the Shield: the Mitrokhin Archive." This was based on copies of KGB files spirited out of Russia by retired KGB officer Vasili Mitrokhin. One of them disclosed that Hopkins had informed the Soviet embassy that the FBI had bugged a secret meeting between Steve Nelson, a member of the U.S. Communist underground, and a Soviet embassy official.
The official had gone to California to give Nelson money to finance his espionage operations. FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover informed Hopkins in writing that the FBI had planted bugs in both Nelson’s home and in the Communist Party headquarters in New York City. In passing this information to the Soviet embassy, Hopkins proved that he put the interests of the U.S.S.R. above those of the U.S.
Further confirmation of Hopkins’ treachery has been found in a Venona intercept in which Akhmerov reports that an agent identified as "19 " reported a conversation between Roosevelt and Churchill. An endnote in the Mitrokhin book says that "it is probable almost to the point of certainty that Hopkins was ‘19.’"
Over strong opposition, Hopkins persuaded the ailing Roosevelt to go to Yalta, where the fate of Poland and other countries under Soviet occupation was sealed. Hopkins said the Russians had been "reasonable and farseeing." Robert Sherwood, a Roosevelt speechwriter, called Yalta "a monstrous fraud." Hopkins had been instrumental in our supplying, with no conditions, the arms that enabled Stalin to defeat the Germans. He helped seal their control of Eastern Europe, and he is suspected of having authorized shipments of uranium that helped them develop their A-bomb.
No wonder Akhmerov considered Hopkins his most important agent. According to Gordievsky, the KGB believed he helped it triumph "over American imperialism." Hero of the Soviet Union? Yes. American hero? No way!
The only way to "tame" this enemy is to expose it and destroy it.
The EUros need to work on the former first... Even after the murder of Theo Van Gogh, very few of them seem to have any clue as to what Islam really is, it's, barbaric history, or its goals.
Once they wake up and smell the coffee, the latter is sure to follow.
The problem is in germany nobody reads this article because Die Welt is only the very small and a little bit more serious brother of die Bild Zeitung. It is more a sort of waste of money for the Springer Verlag because this paper archives only deficits since it was started. SO as a german i have to read US internet pages to read about this comment and when you look at the latest polls about this topic you know why nobody buys this paper.
Here's a paragraph from an article Broder wrote for "Spiegel" the other day
"And what are the friends of peace from old Europe doing? They are nobly restraining themselves. So far no-one has travelled to Iraq as a "human shield", so they could protect police stations and mosques around polling stations from terrorist attacks like they did with the refineries before the American raids."
"Spiegel-Online".... Henryk M. Broder and Claus Christian Malzahn....Verrückt nach Bush
longjack
longjack
Those were brave comments for a European and I bet he will get many people thinking over there. I understand how the tragic events of history have turned the Germans into pacifists, but there are some things still worth fighting for.
"literally everything" bump
"FDR handed Eastern Europe to Stalin all wrapped up with a shiny bow on the package." FDR on-the-wrong-side-of-history bump.
"KGB spy! Can this be true?" FDR on-the-wrong-side-of-history Bump.
Not only Hiss and Hopkins. Try Morgenthau. Try the Communist vp candidate that the Senate Democrats demanded FDR lose in favor (thankfully) of Truman.
"Karl the Great (corrupted as Charlemagne). "
Correct: he spoke German, not French, and is fondly known as Karl der Große.
His seat was in Aachen.
How in the world English and French History converted him to Charlemange is beyond me . . .
"know why nobody buys this paper"
welcome to FR, tim10
hey, tell me where I can get an abo to Die Welt -- preferably on line; I need to practice my German too.
bttt
The online page is www.welt.de
As always you can read many articles online but there also seems to be an online abo under the link abonnement.
But you should better read the FAZ it is conservative and simply better. Die Welt is not a very good paper.
"FAZ it is conservative and simply better. "
I appreciate your advice.
It is very nice to see several German posters here on FR, to give a realistic view. We cannot rely upon the pre-conceived notions about Germany, as I know there are many right-thinking people in Germany -- but many here would not know that except for you posters. How did you learn about FR? I know there was an article in Der Spiegel last year about FR, because we "FReeped" a Spiegel poll.
Please weigh in often with your views, as otherwise too many FReepers will believe the anti-German news they hear.
Tschuss
I am intersted in politics and i have to keep my english but also frensh language alive. So i visit foreign internet pages when i got the time to do that to inform myself.
I searched a conservative US page simply to get an better picture what is going on and try to understand the differences. Well i am a moderate conservative in my country in terms of the US i am not quite sure. On economic issues i am conservative ( in Gemany it whould more or less call liberal refering to the FDP who has a strong economic agenda). On other issues i whould think i am more on the site of the democrats but such things can not be compared because different countries, different histories and different culture.
The bashing on both sites of the atlantic is sad but it will not go on forever. In the end we life in a globalized and networked world we are too much dependend on each other to go on with theses chilish behaviour.
"The bashing on both sites of the atlantic is sad "
yes, and I think people-to-people contact will help to overcome that, too
Hope to see you post again on FR.
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