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African American Muslims Lament Loss of Islamic Heritage (Historically-flawed article)
Islam Online ^ | January 23, 2005 | Islam Online

Posted on 01/23/2005 1:23:04 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John

CAIRO , January 23 (IslamOnline.net) – A perusal through the annals of American history brings back bittersweet memories for African American Muslims, who pride themselves on being the indigenous people of this country and lament the loss of the Islamic heritage throughout ages.

“Not only were there African Muslims who were here in America as explorers before Christopher Columbus, but a third of the African slaves who were brought here during the slave trade were Muslims,” Imam Al-Hajj Talib Abdur-Rashid told The Seattle Times Saturday, January 22.

“We, the indigenous Muslims of America, particularly the African Americans, are still waking up from a 400-year coma.”

Abdur-Rashid acrimoniously recalled how his Muslim ancestors were brought to America as slaves and forced to convert to Christianity.

“We suffered psychic and blunt-force trauma to the head, and forgot everything, including who we are and what we are. We were told, 'Your name is not Ahmed, your name is Charlie. You don't worship Allah. You worship Jesus,'” he told the paper.

“But this could not erase the genetic code. So lo (sic) and behold, 400 years later ... our historical memory as Muslims is being rebooted,” added Abdur-Rashid, who was born a Baptist.

Stereotypes

Many African American Muslims further decry the prevailing stereotypes that their community was mainly made up of criminals, as some of them embrace Islam in prison.

“I have never been in prison except in my work as a chaplain,” said Abdur-Rashid.

“And I have people in leadership in my mosque who are college professors, and I also have people who are ex-offenders.”

African American Muslims also feel offended by affiliating the whole community with the Nation of Islam, especially that estimates showed that only a few thousands of some two million African American Muslims follow the group’s tenets.

Leading Muslim scholars have ruled that “the teachings of the Nation of Islam were extremely far from mainstream Islam in many matters especially those of doctrine”.

The Seattle Times said that the community is keen on playing an active role in developing American society.

It cited one of their famous mosques, the Islamic Brotherhood in New York, as a case in point with boy scout meetings, breast-cancer fund-raising and programs to combat AIDS and homelessness.

“Many here see Islam not just as a path to salvation but also as a social-action program and an authentic expression of black American identity,” the paper commented.

Marginalized

Many African American Muslims also complain about being marginalized not only by American society but, alas, by Muslim immigrants from Arab and southeast Asian countries.

“We are the single largest Muslim community in America . Yet the media often relegates us to the margins,” said Amir Al-Islam, a professor of Islamic Studies at Medgar Evers College of the City University of New York.

He further regretted that other Muslim communities in the States treat African American Muslims as less authentic despite the fact that they have been practicing Islam for decades in the country.

“Muslim organizations from the immigrant community often view us as new Muslims who are seen as not proficient in the Islamic canons and, therefore, lacking in authenticity,” Al-Islam told the paper.

Abdur-Rashid added that the marginalization of his community was very much evident in the presidential election.

A number of major US Muslim groups gave a “qualified endorsement” to Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry, calling on Muslims to vote for him.

“There was no consultation whatsoever with those of us who have any history in this land. And then, to project their collective decision as representative of all Muslims in America was an insult,” Abdur-Rashid said.

“As Ralph Ellison would say, we are the invisible Muslims in this country,” Al-Islam concluded.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

schools in san diego have to call the police when american black males lift the veils of somali females.


21 posted on 01/23/2005 2:24:47 PM PST by ken21 (4 as much time as u spend on the internet, u cd have several college degrees--daisy noonan)
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To: NorCalRepub

Tell that to the family in Newark.


22 posted on 01/23/2005 2:26:17 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Muslims introduced the international slave trade to subsaharan Africa. Europeans ended slavery in Africa. That's the truth.


23 posted on 01/23/2005 2:26:56 PM PST by denydenydeny
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To: mlc9852
oh I got you.......then this one incident proves that all Muslims in American are fascist killers.......thanks for your scientific acumen
24 posted on 01/23/2005 2:31:46 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

You are perfectly free to defend murderous cultists all you want...we do live in a free country.


25 posted on 01/23/2005 2:35:26 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

you are just as bad as liberals overstating the conclusion and then throwing it back to get a reaction......That stuff is juvenile and ridiculous.....if you show me anywhere in my posts I defended a murderous cult than I'll send you free cash..........over reacting extremists on the Repub side are just as guilty as those on the left......you are getting yourself in a tizzy.........


26 posted on 01/23/2005 2:39:28 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

I'm not in a tizzy - the closest Muslims to me are about 400 miles away so I'm not worried. And where I live, we know how to protect ourselves.


27 posted on 01/23/2005 2:45:18 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: PokeyJoe

But this could not erase the genetic code. So lo (sic) and behold, 400 years later ... our historical memory as Muslims is being rebooted,” added Neo Abdur-Rashid, who was born a Baptist and is now an Allahtrix. ---


Rebooted ?
LOL


28 posted on 01/23/2005 2:48:52 PM PST by Selkie (You can argue 'til you're blue in the face, but I'll always be right.)
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To: mlc9852

glad you know how to defend yourself....I also do with several firearms and such.....let me ask though, if you are 400 miles away from any Muslims, how do you know how they are or how the respond. Listen, I hate the fu**ers over in the mideast, i'm not an apologist at all. You took one thing I said and turned me into a liberal or something. This whole thing started cause all I said is that if a Muslim preaches that terrorist are bad, what on earth is wrong with that.......you don't even know my values on the war the medeast or any of that......just my opinion on the thread that was posted


29 posted on 01/23/2005 2:49:48 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: tkathy
They are conveniently ignoring the fact that muslim slave traders captured their ancestors and sold them into slavery. Some are still doing it, which doesn't seem to bother these idiots.

They tend to ignore the fact that Muhammed himself was the first Muslim slave trader!

Not only were there African Muslims who were here in America as explorers before Christopher Columbus, but a third of the African slaves who were brought here during the slave trade were Muslims,”

Say WHAT??? BWwaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! This guy is kidding, right? (please, someone tell me he's kidding...)For the love of God - how delusional can one be?

“We, the indigenous Muslims of America, particularly the African Americans, are still waking up from a 400-year coma.”

Someone ought to let this guy know that even if Black Muslims from Africa had explored the New World before Columbus...that still wouldn't make them "indigenous" to this land. (I wonder, Has he ever heard of the American Indians...oops, I mean NATIVE Americans?)

30 posted on 01/23/2005 2:52:18 PM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: Hodar
Yep, there are tales told how the Vikings were terrified of those African Muslums and their seagoing cruise lines.

I remember that some African king did set off towards the Americas with a fleet of ships long before Columbus, but I don't remember any evidence that he actually made it.

31 posted on 01/23/2005 2:52:44 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: RippleFire
I bet they invented the light bulb too.

And the wheel and the automobile and space travel and....

32 posted on 01/23/2005 2:54:21 PM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: NorCalRepub

That's what everything on here is - opinions. I would love if we could just all get along in the world, but I think we all know that isn't going to happen. If it comes to "us" vs. "them", then so be it.


33 posted on 01/23/2005 2:56:23 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: denydenydeny
Muslims introduced the international slave trade to subsaharan Africa. Europeans ended slavery in Africa. That's the truth.

Slavery has been going on since long before the Muslims, or even the Christians. Neither religion forbids slavery, and both simply regulate it to ensure slaves are treated fairly.

34 posted on 01/23/2005 2:57:39 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: camas
Black Africans were stuck in the lower half of Africa until they were taken as slaves.They couldn't cross the desert into North Africa because they didn't have the wheel.The people of Carthage and their leader Hannibal were not black Africans and neither were the people who built the pyramids.The ocean was the other barrier that kept them from escaping to other lands.They didn't have the capacity to build boats that could sail the ocean.I'm glad to see my tax dollars are paying for this ignorant fool to preach to our prison population.I've seen ministers like this guy and they are more racist than the KKK.
35 posted on 01/23/2005 2:57:45 PM PST by rdcorso (Save Us From All The Stupidity)
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To: mlc9852

yeah......and if it comes to that then I'll be with you in the trenches with my .308 trying to kill as many of them as I can......my whole thing is that people cry and wail that Muslims don't speak out about this...I'm mad about it too, so when one actually does we should at least acknowledge it, not put down our arms......


36 posted on 01/23/2005 2:59:39 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

This Al-Islam dude is a revisionist f***. His blatant ignorance and idiocy can only be matched by his fervent belief in the Islamic garbage.


37 posted on 01/23/2005 3:01:04 PM PST by Kurt_D
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To: NorCalRepub

They need a whole bunch more to speak out before I pay much attention. Maybe the moderates are afraid of the militants.


38 posted on 01/23/2005 3:05:00 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
“But this could not erase the genetic code. So lo (sic) and behold, 400 years later ... our historical memory as Muslims is being rebooted,”

Why stop with your "historical memory as Muslims"? Unless your race suddenly came into existence ex nihilo when the Muslims were sweeping across Africa, your ancestors were practicing some other religion before then. Do you think maybe there was similar grousing in the centuries after the forced conversions to Islam?

39 posted on 01/23/2005 3:07:38 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://blog.c-pol.com?)
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To: mlc9852

you are right.....the mods are afraid of the militants but until they get a backbone then nothing changes. If a major cleric says something, i hope it helps turn the tide


40 posted on 01/23/2005 3:11:22 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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