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NFL Conference Championships - Sun. 23 January 2005 - Update-Patriots vs. Eagles in the Super Bowl

Posted on 01/23/2005 8:59:45 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

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To: faithincowboys
Cohwer shouldn't be fired... Magic Ben just crashed against an immovable object.

The Pats are a FAR SUPERIOR TEAM.

1,681 posted on 01/23/2005 7:53:35 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

Belichick is not interested in respect.

He just wants to win!

Oh, and by the way, he wins!


1,682 posted on 01/23/2005 7:54:47 PM PST by Radix (Free snow. All you can handle. You haul!)
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To: bikepacker67

I wouldn't say far, but they are better rounded on offense and have the best coach. They're superior, but not far, we did beat the Pats once.


1,683 posted on 01/23/2005 7:54:56 PM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: faithincowboys
You know, I'm not gonna second guess one thing. Roethlisberger had a bad day. Brady had a good day.

Yes, I'm pissed at Cowher. But it was a good year and next year will be better.

There were more good times than bad. It just sucks big time that we're done. :^(

1,684 posted on 01/23/2005 7:54:57 PM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: bikepacker67

5 losses out of 6 at home in AFC Champ games. That is unforgivable. Cowher was outcaoched...he made a crappy call... he blew it.


1,685 posted on 01/23/2005 7:56:10 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys

That's 6 trips to the AFC champ game, that's a lot of success. Belichick outcoaches everybody, if we fired everybody that got out coached by the best in the game there'd be 31 job openings.


1,686 posted on 01/23/2005 7:57:12 PM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: discostu

Do you think Bettis will be back?


1,687 posted on 01/23/2005 7:57:24 PM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: discostu

The Pats turned the ball over four times in the first game and this time the Steelers turned it over four times. There's the difference.


1,688 posted on 01/23/2005 7:58:08 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: airborne

The Bus is heading to pasture.


1,689 posted on 01/23/2005 7:58:26 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: airborne

I doubt it. Maybe not Staley either (who's pretty old). That's the biggest damage I see in the off season, that third guy looks good but can he look good 30 runs a game?


1,690 posted on 01/23/2005 7:58:47 PM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: bikepacker67

Too bad he didn't get to the big show. He worked his ass off this year, and took a pay cut.


1,691 posted on 01/23/2005 8:02:07 PM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: airborne

Why didn't he have Hines Ward in the game during that series? Did you see Hines Ward on the sideline (after his big run and catch) asking why he wasn't in the game? Why didn't he have better play calling on that series? It seemed to me like they took 3 dumps and kicked the FG. They should have clearly went for it on 4th down. Had it worked, they down 7 at home ( that's only a one possession game) and the Pats are starting to feel it slip away. Instead he kicks the ball and deflates the whole stadium. They flashed to Bettis on the sideline and you could see he was livid.. he understood that Cowher just blew the game. The whole stadium booed the call. Cowher's will kick and then only have to get a TD, another FG and a two point conversion to tie plan was bs. That was the height of playing to lose.

Even had they not been abloe to convert it on 4th down, the Pats would have taken over on downs deep int heir own territory which if the D could hold them, would have translated into great field position for the next drive. Cowher's call was unforgivable. He didn't lose 5 out of 6 AFC Champ. Games at home for no reason. He didn't stick with the obvious loser Kordell Stewart for so long for no reason. As far as I'm concerned, Cowher's failure gene has wasted the careers of lots of good players. But for Cowher's chokes in the clutch, they would have been world champions.


1,692 posted on 01/23/2005 8:05:26 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: discostu

Eventually, you've got to be accountable for losing 5 out of 6. He didn't lose all 5 to Belichick. He blew it. It's time for a fresh start.


1,693 posted on 01/23/2005 8:06:51 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: bikepacker67

Another guy who didn't get a ring because he wasted his career
with Cowher as his coach.


1,694 posted on 01/23/2005 8:08:18 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys

Eventually we have to remember that only 1 of the 12 teams that enters the playoffs gets to leave them happy, and six AFC championship appearances is an achievement of significant proportions. And getting this far with a rookie QB is pretty impressive too. We're supposed to fire the guy for being only the second coach in NFL history to win a playoff game with a rookie, but not being the first to win 2?! Doesn't make sense. He did great for 17 games this year and lost to the best coach in the league, this would be the stupidest of all possible times for a "fresh start", consistency on the sidelines builds success.

Fans in sports are way too eager to fire coaches, who that's available would do better? What coach out there could have beaten Belichick with a rookie QB at all (which Cowher did) much less in the AFC championship game? Give me names.


1,695 posted on 01/23/2005 8:11:13 PM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: faithincowboys
You make a good argument. :^(

I'm just stunned.

1,696 posted on 01/23/2005 8:12:05 PM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: Blowtorch

Boston Dirt Dogs web site..


www.boston.com

go to Sports page

click Red Sox

Scroll down page and you will see the link


1,697 posted on 01/23/2005 8:29:58 PM PST by misterrob
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To: MIT-Elephant; carl in alaska
That just shows you the respect the networks had for the AFL at the time.

But NBC was the monopoly carrier of AFL games. If they didn't carry the AFL they would not have had any pro football.

1,698 posted on 01/23/2005 8:48:32 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: discostu; faithincowboys

I don't believe Cowher will be fired, but I also think he needs to go. He's done an outstanding job of getting his team's to the big game, but has never been able to close the deal, that's the bottom line. He's been given too many reprieves in my book. Yes, he had a rookie QB, but didn't that same rookie QB beat the Pats in the regular season?


1,699 posted on 01/23/2005 9:04:38 PM PST by Nexus6
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To: airborne

I nearly pulled an Elvis and shot my tv when Cowher made that call. I understood that was the ballgame. Harrison had just gottn hurt, the Steelers were inside the five... the situation demanded that Cowher take all four downs if he had to to get the TD. It's incomrpehensible what he did, Hines Ward is such a spark for the squad...how could he leave him out of the series? Why did he think an FG a td and a two point conversion would be easy to rack up against a monster D in the 4th quarter?

Belichick understands the game. Cowher doesn't. If Cowher did.. he would have pushed for the td. His lame call and 1fg, 1td and 1 2 pt conversion plan put pressure on the D and Roethlisburger. Ben got the ball back with under 8 minutes left, he knew he basically needed two touchdowns. He felt he needed to make a big play and as a result forced the ball and threw an interception.
If Ben was only down 7, there is a much better chance that he doesn't throw that ball. Cowher should have known that his jackassy call would increase the pressure on Roethlisberger. Cowher's inability to coach effectively against elite coaches and inability to understand personnel is a problem. He saw a superstar in Kordell... boy was he wrong there. And tonight, he didn't get that going for the fg to further a low probability plan to win would up the pressure on his rookie qb (who has been struggling as of latye) and that would cost them the game.

The whole thing is effing inexcusable.


1,700 posted on 01/23/2005 9:09:56 PM PST by faithincowboys
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