Posted on 01/23/2005 7:50:03 AM PST by Missouri
I've heard about that.
Its more critical that this problem is fixed in Wisconsin since that state could have easily become a red state. Illinois democrats crossing over here to Missouri haven't done them much good lately.
Hopefully, the Republicans who control the legislator will have enough sense not to do this.
You guys got real problems over there in Ill.
Good luck in fixing them.
That was in St. Louis.
The lady asked Mr. Benjamin Franklin, on the steps of Independance Hall, in Philidelphia, after the signing of our document of freedom (the Declaration of Independence)..."Mr. Franklin, do we have a counrty"? He replied, "Madam you have a Republic.......if you can keep it".
Say this over and over again. If we don't stop this we are doomed to losing our Republic. Calling all patriots, we need you now.
They are the party of government. If they don't control government, they have no reason to exist. They will do anything, legal or not, to make sure they have control.
Fraud?
Get out of town!
I'm all for National Voter ID. Everyone must show it. That way, no one feels any discrimination.
Milwaukee is a fun one. Wisconsin allows same day registration. Turns out that there are over 10,000 same day registrations in Milwaukee alone that cannot be verified (incomplete, illegible, bogus address). Guess how much Kerry won Wisconsin by?
Yup, just over 10,000.
There's some active threads on the Milwaukee stuff. Here's one. Follow the WISTONELELECTION keyword to find others.
To make voting transparent, public, and tamper-proof: Make these changes:
1.Put every vote live on a public website. As each voter votes in his booth, this creates a receipt showing the vote,(not by name if that would kick up privacy issues) but by each voter registration number, its 'receipt' number, showing time and voting place so that every voter can check that their vote (they get a copy of that receipt)
is recorded accurately, and is left in full view in public on that website so any one can check at any time that there is no tampering - untill all are tallied.
2. The registration numbers and names of every voter in each precinct must be available for independant check (to deter fraudulent or dead voters) by 6 months ahead of time.
3. Registration deadlines must be 6 months earlier and there must be a checkable system on the web so people can know that they are registered and where they should vote 3 months ahead of time.
4. Make election day a Saturday. It was originally not a work day.
5. Have one uniform nationwide system.
6. Make the absentee ballot right on the voting website (again with receipts including time, and receipt number) so there is no risk of late mail.
Perhaps the startling element is that something seems to be being done about the first item.
Voting is a right, we shouldn't have to monitor who voted, we need to moniter who votes.
No, that was the City of St. Louis. East St. Louis is across the river (Mississippi) and in Illinios. For anyone who doesn't know East St. Louis, it was once on the cover of Time Magazine as the greatest place to live, crica (1964). With the advent of the Welfare State, East St. was flooded with southern blacks and steadily declined.
By the late 70's, the city had lost all of it's white population, all of it's local businesses and crime became the norm, not the exception. East St. Louis has been lead by a series of criminals, including one mayor who had bady gaurds who carried automatic rifles. The school district receives almost 200% more money than any school district in the state and graduates an astoundingly low number of students (and teaches even fewer how to read).
Of late, the city and the school district have been under State oversight. They have sued repeatedtly to allow the leaders to control the money, but the state will not trust them. The population of East St. Louis has guaranteed the re-election of Democrats throughout the region, so there is not a single person in leadership who wants to change anything. It's crime, corruption, lack of education, bad parenting and a population that has given up that has created the war zone of East St. Louis.
Once the future of the Midwest with all of the potential to become a beautiful, major city, East St. Louis is now the poster child for bulldozing entire cities.
For anyone who is offended by the characterization of the city and it's population, I understand why you do not want the truth told. But you can't hide from the truth and you cannot call the messenger a racist, when he's telling the truth. The population of East St. deserves what they have because they have let it happen and it's time that we in Illinois stop having to pay the tab for your corruption and crime. Period.
Well, it is nice to see the media reporting on this, at least locally. But this is only a blip on the radar of the bigger issue of voter fraud. Is anyone surprised this is happening in East St. Louis ? Of course not.
The big media bang could come from Washington state and the governors race. I have been trying to keep an eye on that one. I have a feeling it could be the big voter fraud scandal on the rats we Republicans have been waiting for. I don`t think the national media would ignore that one if some really sleazy evidence is dug up. We all know it is there , just a matter of time ( I hope ).
It would seem so. I hope the republicans challenge that election to the wall.
I work with many democrats and I can't see them admitting that their party is the party of fraud. Many of them believe that GWB stole these last two elections even though they have not done any research on how things went down.
How Democrats Steal Elections - Top 10 Methods of Liberal Vote Fraud
1. Over-Voting. In Democrat strongholds like St. Louis, Philadelphia and Detroit, some precincts had 100% of their registered voters voting, with 99% of the ballots going to Gore. Clearly, multiple voting resulted in extra tallies for Gore in the 2000 election. (New York Post, 12/09/00).
2. Dead Voters. This classic Democratic method of vote fraud goes all the way back to 1960 in Chicago and Dallas. The 2000 election was no exception. In Miami-Dade County, for example, some of the 144 ineligible votes (those which officials actually admitted to) were cast by dead people, including a Haitian-American who's been deceased since 1977 (Miami-Herald, 12/24/00).
3. Mystery Voters. These "voters" cast votes anyway but are not even registered to vote. In heavily Democratic Broward County, for example, more than 400 ballots were cast by non-registered voters. (Miami-Herald 1/09/01)
4. Military ballots. Many of these votes were disqualified for the most mundane and trivial reasons. At least 1,527 valid military ballots were discarded in Florida by Democratic vote counters (Drudge Report, 11/19/00).
5. Criminals. Felons are a natural Democratic voter and they're protected on voter rolls across the country. In Florida at least 445 ex-convicts - including rapists and murderers -- voted illegally on November 7th. Nearly all of them were registered Democrats. (Miami-Herald 12/01/00)
6. Illegal aliens. These voters have long been a core liberal constituency, especially in California. In Orange County in 1996, Rep. Bob Dornan had his congressional seat stolen from him when thousands of illegal aliens voted for Loretta Sanchez (Christian Science Monitor, 9/2/97).
7. Vote-buying. Purchasing votes has long been a traditional scheme by Democrats, and not just with money. In the 2000 election in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Democratic workers initiate a "smokes-for-votes" campaign in which they paid dozens of homeless men with cigarettes if they cast ballots for Al Gore (Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 11/14/00).
8. Phantom Voters. These voters don't really exist, but their ballots do. In the 1996 Lousiana Senate race, GOP candidate Woody Jenkins had the election stolen from him when he discovered that 7,454 actual votes were cast but had no paper trail to authenticate them (Behind the Headlines, F.R. Duplantier, 4/27/97).
9. Dimpled chads. Those infamous punch-cards were a ballot bonanza for Al Gore. Democratic poll workers in Palm Beach, Dade and Broward counties tampered and manipulated thousands of ineligible ballots and counted them for Gore, even though no clear vote could be discerned. (NewsMax.com 11/27, 12/22, 11/18, 11/19/00).
10. Absentee ballots. Normally it's assumed that Republicans benefit from absentee ballots. But in the case of Miami's 1997 mayoral election, hundreds of absentee ballots were made for sale or sent out to non-Miami residents. Fraud was so extensive in the race that the final results were overturned in court (FL Dept. of Law Enforcement Report, 1/5/98)."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=votefraud
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=electionfraud
National "Picture" ID should solve that. How easy is it to fake someone's looks?
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