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Muslims Boycott Holocaust Remembrance (UK)
The Sunday Times ^ | January 23, 2005 | David Leppard

Posted on 01/22/2005 4:45:50 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: Clara Lou

Right you are, Clara lou.


61 posted on 01/22/2005 7:22:10 PM PST by TheBrotherhood (How am I doing?)
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To: Clara Lou
"In the interests of accuracy, being "buddies" and participating in the Holocaust are two different things."

Y'know what? I don't have a strong opinion on this subject, and I don't mean to flame you here, but I have been through this thread and many many similar threads over the past few years.

I would strongly advise you to stop defending Islam. You have been presented with imagery proving Islamic complicity with the attempt to wipe out the Jewish culture during WWII. Similar attempts by modern Islam has been going on for the last 50+ post WWII years. If they're trying to liquidate the Jewish culture now, you can bet that they were doing it during WWII.

Are there Muslims who don't condone what is currently happening? Yes. But their numbers are small, which is a statement I make based on the reluctance of most Islamic officials to condemn the attacks on Christians.

In conclusion, I believe that the Muslim world was most certainly supportive of Hitler and his attempts to wipe out the Jewish culture.

62 posted on 01/22/2005 7:22:26 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: Lion in Winter

There were nazi death camps in which 800,000 Christians and Jews died. I cannot remember the totals but is was something like 20,000 Jews and the rest were Christians.

The fact is that the vast majority of people who died were Christians. Tens of millions of them were killed, but no museum or monuments are erected in their remembrance. Why aren't 20-25 millions Russian Christian and millions upon millions of Christians of other nationality not remembered? The next time people read of the millions of deaths in WWII, they should think that the vast majority of them were, by and large, Christians. That is the real tragedy of WWII. Remember people!


63 posted on 01/22/2005 7:34:05 PM PST by TheBrotherhood (How am I doing?)
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To: Lion in Winter

Muslims, all of them want Israel off the planet.

Corrections: muslims want all Christian, Buddhists, Hindus and all other infidels off the planet, including Jews, of course.


64 posted on 01/22/2005 7:37:33 PM PST by TheBrotherhood (How am I doing?)
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To: An American In Dairyland; Lion in Winter

Thank you for stating that better than I could have. I don't believe that my Polish relatives are any less dead or any less important than any Jew that was slaughtered by Hitler!


65 posted on 01/22/2005 8:29:06 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Lion in Winter
One can find out all about it IF one really wants to.

Why should anyone have to dig for the facts and the whole truth? Why is it being buried in the first place? I knew plenty more than most people before you "enlightened" me and how do you suppose I did? That's right by reading. How do you suppose I found myself debating Allan Colmes in email about it? That's right by looking to learn more. You can have this discussion with me without talking down to me or you can have it alone. Your choice.

66 posted on 01/22/2005 8:57:28 PM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: cockroach_magoo; popdonnelly; JudyinCanada; An American In Dairyland; Lion in Winter; Clara Lou; ...
Iqbal Sacranie is-allegedly-the embodiment of moderate Islam in the United Kingdom.

I suppose that now we know the precise definition of the term "moderate", don't we?

WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON, BOY? WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?

-good Thames, G.J.P.(Jr.)

67 posted on 01/22/2005 10:01:03 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Anxiously awaiting the coming of the Tupacalypse.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Nazis and Muslims. Brothers to the bone. What we had to do to the former we will do to the latter, in due time.


68 posted on 01/22/2005 10:05:46 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham; Mad_Tom_Rackham; All
Nazis and Muslims. Brothers to the bone. What we had to do to the former we will do to the latter, in due time.

The Allies!
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69 posted on 01/22/2005 10:31:50 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: An American In Dairyland
It would also be *nice* if these ceremonies openly acknowledged that gypsies, Poles, Catholics, homosexuals, astrologers and any other group Hitler didn't like were also killed in the holocaust. Somehow those numbers are never mentioned.

6 Million jews died. 7 million other nationalities. Of course the other people were mixed. The Jews were the only single race, group? that suffered 6 million. However, I agree with you, the other 7 million should be mentioned and brought to peoples attention.

70 posted on 01/22/2005 10:35:38 PM PST by calex59
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To: An American In Dairyland
It would also be *nice* if these ceremonies openly acknowledged that gypsies, Poles, Catholics, homosexuals, astrologers and any other group Hitler didn't like were also killed in the holocaust. Somehow those numbers are never mentioned.
1. I mention the other groups.
2. The other groups need better PR on this.
3. Homosexuals were both targets and perpetrators. The Nazi party was full of Homosexuals. The Nazis liked butch homosexuals. They hated "fems".
71 posted on 01/23/2005 12:03:27 AM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: Pelayo; Lion in Winter

The term anti-semitic comes from the Anti-Semitic Party founded by Wilhelm Marr, who sought to differentiate "sciantific" racial hatred of Jews from medieval religious hatred.


72 posted on 01/23/2005 12:29:50 AM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Iqbal Sacranie, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, has written to Charles Clarke, the home secretary, saying the body will not attend the event
"
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That's fine and dandy.
Who invited him, anyway?


73 posted on 01/23/2005 12:42:59 AM PST by Marguerite
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To: Fiddlstix; rmlew

http://www.middleeastinfo.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&tid=3205


74 posted on 01/23/2005 1:04:51 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Anxiously awaiting the coming of the Tupacalypse.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
75 posted on 01/23/2005 5:53:46 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: yooper
I would strongly advise you to stop defending Islam.
I advise you to put your glasses on and read what I said. My first comment on this thread addressed the semantics used by the poster addressed and had nothing to do with "defending Islam." Toodle-oo
76 posted on 01/23/2005 6:20:35 AM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Iqbal Sacranie is-allegedly-the embodiment of moderate Islam in the United Kingdom.

I suppose that now we know the precise definition of the term "moderate", don't we?

WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON, BOY? WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?

-good Thames, G.J.P.(Jr.)

bunny...pancake

77 posted on 01/23/2005 6:22:25 AM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: West Coast Conservative

Unbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


78 posted on 01/23/2005 6:48:56 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/blackconservatism.htm)
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To: Fred Nerks
Words of prophecy from the Holy Koran:


"There is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him!"

......it's as if the rock is actually talking, isn't it? (LOL).........
79 posted on 01/23/2005 8:08:46 AM PST by TitansAFC (Al Gonzales for SCOTUS? Let's just nominate Arlen Specter.)
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To: Pelayo

You're right in that most Arabs are a Semitic people; I
was using the term as it is used in American common parlance as anti-Jewish or anti-Israeli.


80 posted on 01/23/2005 8:34:14 AM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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