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To: farmfriend
2 posted on
01/22/2005 2:17:12 PM PST by
Brian328i
To: farmfriend
giant sea spiders????
I didn't know about such critters...
3 posted on
01/22/2005 2:17:33 PM PST by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
4 posted on
01/22/2005 2:18:17 PM PST by
farmfriend
( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Common sense reality check -- why would GRASS be anything to merit such ridiculous propositions such as ".. Tufts have previously grown on patches of Antarctica in summer, but the scientists have now observed bigger areas surviving winter and spreading in the summer months.
Some fear the change portends a much wider melting of the ice-cap that formed at least 20m years ago."
Fear? When did grass become scary? Doesn't grass absorb CO2 and release oxygen -- thereby reducing the so-called and feared "greenhouse effect"?
This would be just silly except for the fact that these Luddites are deadly serious.
8 posted on
01/22/2005 2:27:07 PM PST by
WL-law
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"The findings come at a politically sensitive time with Europe and America clashing over the latters refusal to sign up to the Kyoto treaty to limit greenhouse gas emissions."
Gee, who would have seen this one coming? It is all America`s fault.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Grasslands in Antarctica? Quick! Who wants to join me in setting up a cattle ranch in the real "down under"?
10 posted on
01/22/2005 2:28:11 PM PST by
Kurt_D
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Grassy steppes at the bottom of the world. Imagine vast, ambling herds of antarctic steen-bok, dik-dik, and gnu, culled by polar cheetahs and prides of white snow lions.
11 posted on
01/22/2005 2:28:22 PM PST by
Asclepius
(protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The findings come at a politically sensitive time with Europe and America clashing over the latters refusal to sign up to the Kyoto treaty to limit greenhouse gas emissions. That's because the treaty asks basically no sacrifice from Europe, and huge sacrifice from the US. The whole stupid thing is just another UN-based get-the-US ploy.
Funny how he didn't "frame" it that way.
13 posted on
01/22/2005 2:31:20 PM PST by
PianoMan
(and now back to practicing)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The latest research was carried out on the Antarctic peninsula, which juts northwards towards Cape Horn, and the islands around it. More strongly influenced by changes in sea and air temperatures than the rest of Antarctica, these areas are an excellent place to measure effects of climate change. Funny how they only report measurements of the places that are warmer. Meanwhile, Europe is worried about entering a cooling period. It all adds up to a net zero to me.
14 posted on
01/22/2005 2:31:42 PM PST by
LoneRangerMassachusetts
(Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So, Antarctica is warming up and grass is growing. Interesting. It isn't like Antarctica was always covered in ice. I suppose that the "scientists" who are "warning" us about "global warming" have never seen the Piri Re'is Map of 1513 or the Oronteus Finaeus World Map of 1532. both show sub glacial areas of Antarctica, the Finaeus map moreso. Both maps were drawn using older source maps. Perhaps we are not looking at "global warming" but a shift of the Earth's axis.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Winter Rules?
23 posted on
01/22/2005 3:20:42 PM PST by
FreedomFarmer
(There was some amusement in the discovery that the hippy was dispatched with a dum-dum...)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
King and his colleagues believe such trends could continue, possibly even raising winter temperatures on the peninsula from their past average of -10C to near freezing. Eventually this could give the peninsula a climate comparable to that of Scandinavia. The last thing we need are more Scandinavians
24 posted on
01/22/2005 3:41:03 PM PST by
CzarNicky
(The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From Christian Science Monitor.
January 18, 2002
Guess what? Antarctica's getting colder, not warmer
... Dr. Dornan's study points to an average cooling of 0.7 degrees per decade from 1986 to 2000 at the McMurdo Dry Valleys Long-Term Ecological Research Station. Using estimates from British data taken since 1966, the team calculates that the cooling trend has been under way since at least that date."
The report, published in the current issue of the journal Nature, appears to confirm a study published last year in the Journal of Climate by Josephino Comiso, an atmospheric scientist at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. Using satellite data for the months of January and July from 1979 to 1999, he reported a drop in the continent's average temperature that amounted to 0.4 degrees per decade.
http://www.christiansciencemonitor.com/2002/0118/p02s01-usgn.html
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This hasn't been the first time grass has been noticed growing on the Antarctic Peninsula"
"The island has a relatively diverse flora and luxuriant development of plant communities, representative of the southern maritime Antarctic region. The rich terrestrial biology of Lagotellerie Island was first noted by Herwil Bryant, biologist at East Base (US, on Stonington Island; now Historic Monument No. 55), during a visit in 1940-41 when he observed growths of moss, the Antarctic hair grass Deschampsia antarctica, and "a small flowering plant" (almost certainly the Antarctic pearlwort Colobanthus quitensis), in a small gully believed to be that found at the north-eastern end of the island which he considered of such unusual richness for the region that he unofficially referred to it as "Shangri-la Valley".
"He did not describe the less luxuriant but more extensive communities of Deschampsia antarctica and Colobanthus quitensis found on the higher north-facing slopes of the island. These slopes and terraces also provide favourable microclimatic conditions for growth, with a relatively long snow-free growing season, and support an abundance of Deschampsia antarctica and Colobanthus quitensis, the grass forming closed swards of up to 10 m2 on some of the terraces.
"These are among the largest stands of these plants known south of the South Shetland Islands. Both species flower abundantly and the seeds have a greater viability than those produced in the South Orkney or South Shetland Islands, yet they are close to the southern limit of their range. Lagotellerie Island, however, is notable for the growth of Deschampsia antarctica at the highest altitude recorded south of 56° S, with scattered small plants observed at heights of up to 275 m. Colobanthus quitensis has been observed growing up to 120 m on the island."
http://www.scar.org/publications/bulletins/143/spa19/
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
There goes the neighborhood.
32 posted on
01/22/2005 5:24:16 PM PST by
x1stcav
(Hooahh!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I wish global warming in the winter hit us here. This is one of the worst winters in a long long time here.
34 posted on
01/22/2005 7:55:05 PM PST by
Dan from Michigan
("We clearly screwed up on the communications," Detroit Mayor Kilpatrick - after caught in a lie.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
And just, pray tell, did the grass seed come from? And enough of it to cover vast areas?
38 posted on
01/22/2005 9:12:01 PM PST by
fella
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1Old Pro; aardvark1; a_federalist; abner; alaskanfan; alloysteel; alfons; ...
Wow, more B.S. - I can hardly contain myself.
It's hard to believe that at a time when ice flows are growing so fast that island-sized icebergs are breaking off, and the bergs are threatening New Zealand's shipping lanes. Warming? couldn't we use some?
46 posted on
01/23/2005 12:50:15 PM PST by
editor-surveyor
(The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Cool. Golfing in Antarctica next.
52 posted on
01/23/2005 2:25:17 PM PST by
snopercod
( We as the people no longer truly believe in liberty, not as Americans did -- Dayfdd ab Hugh)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wonderful news, let's have trees and much more warmth!
55 posted on
01/23/2005 4:21:46 PM PST by
metacognative
(follow the gravy...)
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