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Harvard Students Predict Hagel Presidency In 2008
AP via Yankton Press and Dakotan ^ | 1/11/05 | anonymous

Posted on 01/13/2005 2:23:00 PM PST by tellw

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) -- Four years from now, if some Harvard students' predictions turn true, Sen. Chuck Hagel will be preparing for his presidential inauguration.

That's according to a group of students tasked with researching this past presidential election and looking forward into the next election cycle.

Student authors Miriam Barhoush, Kevin Bourke, Amanda Coe and Paul Scott, predict Hagel will win the White House over Democratic Sen. Evan Bayh, of Indiana. Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney will be the Republican's running mate and Mark Warner, currently governor of Virginia, will be the Democratic counterpart.

The students wrote the paper for the course, "Driving Forces in American Politics," taught by David Gergen and Elaine Karmack at the John F. Kennedy School of Government. Karmack served in the Clinton White House and Gergen has worked for Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Clinton.

Hagel spokesman Mike Buttry called the exercise "interesting."

"We'll probably see a lot of projects like this over the next four years," Buttry said Monday.

Hagel has not said whether he'll run for president in 2008.

The students predicted Hagel will have to overcome his largest obstacle -- name recognition -- to win the nomination over Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and Colorado Gov. Bill Owens.

These students say Hagel will win the primaries because he represents "the quintessential New Hampshire candidate (with) unquestioned credentials on defense and fiscal management."

Not all Republicans may back Hagel as nominee, the students cautioned.

"His reputation as a maverick could hurt him with rank-and-file Republicans who strongly support the current administration," the study read.

But Hagel could attract some middle-of-the-road voters, the students wrote.

"Hagel's straight talk will win over moderate voters and those who feel that our foreign policy warrants better management," they wrote.

Popular with moderate voters themselves, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. and current Secretary of State Colin Powell will endorse Hagel in the New Hampshire primary and he'll become "the anti-establishment candidate," the students wrote.

He'll even collect his nomination near his home state, they predict. The students suggest that the 2008 Republican convention will be held in Kansas City, Mo.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; gergen; hagel; predictions
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To: JohnnyZ

I like Cheney....


61 posted on 01/13/2005 4:38:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: tellw
How ridiculous. They pick a liberal RINO. Must be wishful thinking.

But beyond that, Senators just make piss-poor candidates for President. The last one elected right out of the Senate was Kennedy and before that... I have no idea.
62 posted on 01/13/2005 4:51:35 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (The Compassionate Troll)
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To: tellw

Hegel is looking mighty presidential, but something tells me he's passed his "sell by" date.

63 posted on 01/13/2005 5:11:02 PM PST by x
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To: tellw

I only know very little about Romney. Do you think he is a player in 08?


64 posted on 01/13/2005 5:38:47 PM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: tellw

Back to the books for these students.
Not happening.

Serves to prove how out of touch they are
with politics GOP. LOL.


65 posted on 01/13/2005 5:41:29 PM PST by onyx
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To: curmudgeonII
I'd also be amazed if Bayh gets nominated; if he does he'll have to swirch to a pro-abortion stance.

He voted for the partial birth ban I think. He could be another Lieberman, though one that looks a heck of a lot better on TV. If the Dems nominate him instead of Dean it certainly is a win for conservatives, liberals wouldn't even be able to win their own party's nomination. :-)

66 posted on 01/13/2005 6:14:49 PM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: dogbyte12
Going with a governor can never be wrong

SAY WHAT????


67 posted on 01/13/2005 6:16:24 PM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: Remember_Salamis
Allen is a great senator, but I don't feel right nominating a senatorAllen was a governor once, but Virginia has a one term limit. Perhaps he could pick someone like Owens to be his running mate?
68 posted on 01/13/2005 6:17:43 PM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: tellw
These students say Hagel will win the primaries because he represents "the quintessential New Hampshire candidate (with) unquestioned credentials on defense and fiscal management."

This is an interesting thing to look out for on the GOP side...the NH primary is first but the power center of the GOP has long since moved south and west. A Republican candidate who can win NH may not go over well in the South and the SC primary takes on more importance. It may be time for the GOP side at least to consider moving SC ahead of NH in the primary order.

69 posted on 01/13/2005 6:22:37 PM PST by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: tellw
LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) -- Four years from now, if some Harvard students' predictions turn true, Sen. Chuck Hagel will be preparing for his presidential inauguration.

An Associated Press story filed out of Lincoln, Neb. about Harvard college students predicting an election in 4 years?

There is absolutely nothing I can think of which would rationally account for the existence of this sentence.

70 posted on 01/13/2005 6:22:41 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: 1LongTimeLurker

Let's look at the last presidents.
2000- Governor Bush (2 terms)
1992- Governor Clinton (2 terms)
1988 VP Bush (1 Term)
1980 Governor Reagan (2 terms)
1976 Governor Carter (1 term)
1968 (Ex Senator and VP Nixon) 2 terms sorta
1964 VP Johnson (ex Senator)

I just think if you look at recent history, the only exception to the governors winning is VP's winning.
Cheney isn't running. Gore won't win. Quayle who? Got to be a Governor.


71 posted on 01/13/2005 6:36:28 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: tellw

Impossible, since George Allen will be the Republican nominee in 2008 (and win).


72 posted on 01/13/2005 6:38:22 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: 1LongTimeLurker

I'll take Owens-Allen over Allen-Owens.


73 posted on 01/13/2005 6:47:49 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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To: tellw

Two questions:

1) Since when has anybody at Harvard ever cared about a Republican candidate for President?

2) How is Chucky-boy going to manage a successful bid for the Presidency without winning the Republican nomination?


74 posted on 01/13/2005 6:59:39 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: carlo3b

I wouldn't vote for Hagel in a million years ( as the War on Terror is my top political concern and Hagel is weak on Iraq), but you are being a bit of a idiot here.
NorCalRepub hasn't said a SINGLE thing on this thread that would indicate that he was a troll, a leftist, or a DU member. All he did was disagree with your opinion of a REpublican Presidential candidate to favor ANOTHER Republican Presidential candidate.

A little infighting is healthy on these boards. Hell, I've been raised a Republican since childhood (twice a Bush voter and an FR poster since May), but I've constantly got certain types on FR flaming me whenever I happen to disagree with them on an issue or two. For example, the last time I stuck up for gay rights in the U.S. (God forbid I should favor the rights of the individual to decide for themselves who they may love without interference from Big Government), I was mercifully flamed, termed a troll, etc-- all by people who translated "I disagree" into "I'm a threat to you".

There is much room for disagreement in a great party that supports both Bill Owens and Arnold Schwarzenegger, both Tom Tancredo and Arlen Specter (as loathsome as he is). Don't cry troll too much, or noone will listen or care when you blow the whistle on a REAL troll, aka socialist, communist, racist.


75 posted on 01/13/2005 7:17:03 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Huck

"His reputation as a maverick liberal." ...and Harvard educated students don't know anything BUT liberalism. Show them the "big, red map" and watch them squirm trying to explain why there is so little "blue".


76 posted on 01/13/2005 8:11:52 PM PST by Winfield (sham)
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To: Republican Red

"In fact, I think Bayh is more Republican than Hagel (LOL)"
What is a nice guy like Bayh doing in the Democrat party?
Maybe he isn't as intelligent as we think? "Tis a puzzlement!"


77 posted on 01/13/2005 8:14:37 PM PST by Winfield (sham)
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To: tellw

LOL, the only way you can run as President is if you win the primary. Hagel doesn't stand a chance, neither does McCain.


78 posted on 01/13/2005 8:17:01 PM PST by McGavin999 (Senate is trying to cover their A$$es with Rumsfeld's hide)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

same for me. No way EVER.


79 posted on 01/13/2005 8:27:21 PM PST by pugmama
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To: ken21

He wouldn't even carry his own Nebraska for Prez.


80 posted on 01/13/2005 8:49:10 PM PST by Hattie
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