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1 posted on 01/13/2005 11:53:07 AM PST by bob3443
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2 posted on 01/13/2005 11:55:03 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Threat Level: Elevated - Basic list of survival gear @ my FR Homepage)
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To: bob3443
Smoking is a freedom of speech i.e. personal liberty.

There's a non sequitir for you. What logic lies behind this statement?

4 posted on 01/13/2005 11:59:25 AM PST by RonF
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To: bob3443
Smoking is a freedom of speech

Sorry, you lost me there. I won't bother reading any further.

But, lest you get the wrong idea, I believe property owners have the right to set whatever rules they want with regard to whether and where smoking is permitted on their property. (On public property, the public decides, either through a ballot initiative or by proxy through their elected officials.)

5 posted on 01/13/2005 12:00:11 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: bob3443

What about the right of others to walk down the street and not be forced to inhale poluted air spewed out by someone with a burning pacifier stuck into their mouth?


6 posted on 01/13/2005 12:01:20 PM PST by LoneSome Journey
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To: bob3443

Sorry, as a smoker I cannot buy into this argument at all. Smoking is not a form of speech. However, if you get throat cancer it may restrict or even prohibit your speech.


9 posted on 01/13/2005 12:05:50 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: bob3443

If burning a flag is free speech, why NOT smoking?


10 posted on 01/13/2005 12:06:40 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Men are from earth, women are from earth...deal with it!)
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18 posted on 01/13/2005 12:17:52 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: bob3443

If this lunacy is the best the smokers anywhere anytime can come up with get ready to quit. It is amusing to watch desperate flailing about though.


42 posted on 01/13/2005 1:03:50 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: bob3443

Ping to myself


69 posted on 01/13/2005 1:24:41 PM PST by Ignatz (Strategic Air Command: Peace is our profession...........bombing's just a hobby!)
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To: bob3443
"If Government regulates the use of private property in such a way as will harm the profitability of a business located on said private property, or the fair market value of the property itself, and by such regulation declare or imply that said property is in fact public, it stands to reason that the government in the position of owing just compensation to the owner of said property."

Exactly! Excellent post. Thank you!

99 posted on 01/13/2005 1:48:31 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (I support Terri's supporters!!!!)
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To: bob3443

How can an amendment be unconstitutional? Doesn't it stand on its own as part of the document?


130 posted on 01/13/2005 2:18:39 PM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: bob3443

I am glad to see work being done on new arguments to stop the smoking bans. The old ones regarding private property just don't work.


182 posted on 01/13/2005 3:35:56 PM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: bob3443

Whatever happened to the concept of liberty in this country? When did government become our mommy and daddy and adult citizens become children incapable of governing themselves? These bans are pure fascism.

And I don't even smoke.


200 posted on 01/13/2005 4:35:25 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (The Compassionate Troll)
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To: bob3443
Anybody with two bits in their pocket can force their taste in music or lack there of on a room full of their betters.
217 posted on 01/13/2005 5:36:48 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (So I talk to myself, at least I am talking to a mind that is my equal)
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