Constitutional Means to Fight Smoking Bans

Smokers United ^ | January 11,2005 | Robert Hayes Halfpenny

[exnavychick]

Wonder how long it'll be before they start throwing parents in jail if they smoke and removing the children from their homes...whether or not they have foster children, adopted children, or biological children. The day is coming when they try, and oh boy!

Hell hath no fury.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Unfortunately there are too few polite people in this world.

I remember how my friend's mom forty years ago would go out on her back porch to smoke. I always thought it odd but I guess she was just ahead of her time.

[Final Authority]

In reply to #4, I have always observed that smokers punctuate their lives and actions behind the frame of a butt. In this case, to the smoker it is speech because it is a punctuation and is part of their persona.I have never smoked but I lived with smokers, my dead parents, and each and every activity, thought, conversation were all framed with a butt. Get in a car, light up. Have a meal, light up. Open the mail, light up. Answer the phone, light up. Walk down the street to get some fresh air, light up a butt and display it proudly.

They are telling the world with their actions that they are addicted and they fashionably mimic the dead smokers we all knew too well on TV and in the movies.

But we all know, this kind of speech if one can really call it that was not the speech that the founders considered when they penned the Constitution.

[exnavychick]

:)

[Bigh4u2]

""Certainly,BUT SMOKE THE DAMN WEED OUTSIDE. I DON'T NEED CANCER FROM YOUR BUTT."

All studies have shown there is 'no proveable link ' of cancer to second hand smoke.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Guess you never heard of zoning.

[Madame Dufarge]

Meet with staff on the fifth floor.

The upside of this, of course, is that by dousing yourself with scent before you go to work you could avoid any contact with the neurotics on the fifth floor virtually forever.

This must be a great relief to the people on all the other floors. They may even have suggested it, now that I think of it.

[SheLion]

It's a vicious circle, and one that shows them for the fools they are.

The anti's talk out of both sides of their mouths.

Just like Phillip Morris. They still make and sell cigarettes, then they spend big bucks on that TV Ad for everyone to quit smoking and how bad it is for us.

They are huge hypocrites!

[SheLion]

Too bad she doesn't have the brains to match her looks. Then she might actually say something that makes sense.

She talks about how beautiful she is. Boy! Talk about being 'stuck on herself!'

[Snoopers-868th]

I just think this is hillarious. A State Department even in a building that is many floors high (14 I think). Anyway, if all State Departments decided to do this in their respective buildings I was just wondering what kind of issues this could bring forth. What a load accomodate a few and expense many.

[SheLion]

Wonder how long it'll be before they start throwing parents in jail if they smoke and removing the children from their homes...whether or not they have foster children, adopted children, or biological children. The day is coming when they try, and oh boy!

I'm glad my kid is grown. But she and my son-in-law both smoke, and they have my 3 year-old grandson. He is military so it's a double wammy for them. They smoke out on their balcony, away from the little one, and they never smoke in their vehicles with him.

They do not want grief from Health and Human Services nor do they want grief from his Commander.

[TOUGH STOUGH]

No, never. Please 'splain it to me, justshutupandtakeit. /sarcasm/

[SheLion]

GALLERY OF FAMOUS SMOKERS

[Labyrinthos]

And the Amendment says "Congress shall make no law...", not "There shall be no impendiment to..."

The SCOTUS has ruled over and over and over again that the First Amendment applies to state and local government by virtue of the 14th Amendment. You can disagree with the SCOTUS all you want, but the issue is has already been decided.

[Madame Dufarge]

I would think this would give smokers an opening to demand a smoking only floor.

After all, what with the "addiction" and all.

Hey, it's worth a shot.

[Just another Joe]

I support it because it's categorically dangerous.

Where do you come up ETS is, "categorically dangerous"?
Can you support this with indisputable facts?

[exnavychick]

Yeah, it tends to distract somewhat from her looks, doesn't it?

I've seen lots of people (male and female) that are just drop-dead gorgeous...until they open their mouths.

Dated a guy like that once...BIG MISTAKE!! Mr. Ex, however, has the total package...looks and BRAINS! Rrrowr!

LOL

[newgeezer]

Just like Phillip Morris. They still make and sell cigarettes, then they spend big bucks on that TV Ad for everyone to quit smoking and how bad it is for us. They are huge hypocrites!

I wondered if they were airing those ads because either (1) the government made them do it or (2) their lawyers suggested they do it.

Even if that's not the case, I wouldn't call them hypocrites. They're selling a product that some people want. If they want to give potential customers the chance to make a fully-informed decision, that's not necessarily hypocritical. That's just free enterprise.

[Madame Dufarge]

That's just free enterprise.

How could it be free enterprise if the government forced them to do it?

[exnavychick]

Nice, ain't it? One of the docs at the clinic (When I was pg with my four year old (well, the younger four year old) was threatening to remove my half-duty chit (I had one for the last two months, due to swelling) if I didn't quit smoking. He never did, but the simple threat was scary enough.