Posted on 01/13/2005 8:33:37 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
ATLANTA (AP) -- Federal judge rules the evolution disclaimer stickers placed inside Cobb County science textbooks are unconsitutional.
These guys must be still diving into Hovind's dumpster.
And Darwin's thinking in regards to the aboriginese and the blacks of Africa was likely a result of cultural preconceptions of his day. For in the ancient world, blacks and aboriginese were isolated from the main belt of history, which was the Mediterranean to throughout the Near East. And people did not think along racial lines then as compared to now.
Evolutionary theory is seen as a 'religious' affront by some fundamentalists.
In this case a public school board put a sticker stating a religious opinion about evolution in some textbooks, pretending the 'sticker' is not a religious statement ..
-- That pretense is repugnant to our Constitution principle of keeping religion out of politics.
I agree that theories should not be taught as fact, and should be approached using critical thinking, as my comment notes.
If you agree that theories shouldn't be taught as facts, then you shouldn't be offended by the sticker.
The pretense by the board was offensive. They are trying to pretend they are not making a religious point. They are.
The evolutionary hypothesis about the beginning of life is taught as fact by religious zealots (whose religion is evolution) who are offended by anyone with faith........not in every case, but in many. That is the reason this sticker is appropriate in science textbooks and not in every textbook.
As I see it, both sides are over zealous nit pickers. A-thiests are as bad as theists in these schoolhouse squabbles.
They should both keep their children out of public schools, and let the rest of us live in peace.
I guess you be ok once Catholism is taught as religeoud myth.
Pretty much that is the way it is in Europe. Evolution is commonly used to discredit the bible and Catholics. That is why I beleive what Aquinas taught.
Excerpt
http://www.theologicalstudies.citymax.com/articles/article/1527417/16869.htm
First, Aquinas merged Christian theology with the teachings of Aristotle. For most of church history, whenever the church looked to the ideas of a particular philosopher, it looked to the teachings of Plato. In the thirteenth century, though, there was a rediscovery of the teachings of Aristotle. Although not the first person of his century to use Aristotle, Aquinas relied upon Aristotelian concepts when formulating his own theology. For example, Aquinas’s view of the Eucharist closely parallels Aristotle’s theory of categories in which “substance” is the primary reality of a thing while all other categories such as quality, time, and state are dependent upon the substance. For Aquinas, the substance of the Eucharist was the actual body of Jesus Christ even though the appearance of the Eucharist was that of literal bread.
Second, Aquinas offered five proofs for God’s existence which upon review can be distilled into two main arguments—the cosmological and teleological. The cosmological argument asserts that all existing and contingent things like the earth rely upon some uncaused non-contingent being for their existence. For Aquinas, the earth came into existence by the Christian God who himself does not have a cause. (Aquinas’s cosmological argument parallels Aristotle’s concept of the “Unmoved Mover” who started all things in motion.) The teleological argument, which Aquinas also used, asserts that the incredible complexity in the universe points to an intelligent being who created it all.
I guess if you want a really simple answer.......yes.
All of nature is fallen. And that includes orangutangs.
Hey!! He's the judge, don't confuse him with the constitution (he's already got his mind made up!!)
Well, then I guess you need to define what 'evolution' is to the teachers who are teaching it, because they are including the origin of life.
Or Jack Chick.
Kings is just find, your bias won;t let you see that.
The religious zealots who worship the gods of man and science have taken over many public schools, and that, as I see it, is the more serious problem than the parents who don't want their kids punished because they have faith.
And I disagree with your presumption that the sole motivation for the stickers was 'religious.' Do you have any actual facts to back that accusation up, or is it just a presumption on your part?
Well, My personal favorite is that the current world leader in genetics (genome something or other...I'll get his name tonight..) has concluded that a change in dna of more than 0.3% creates a fatal error. (either instantaniously or incramentally) the change from ape to man is over 3.0%. A fatal error is an error ends the chance for life to continue. (either still birth or sterility) Therefore it is impossible for the greater theory of evolution to work.
That relates to the earlier point on this thread that bacterium can't change into something other than a one celled organism (it would be a change of more than 0.3%)
I also think that Aquinas gave us the idea of Natural Law....
Third, Aquinas argued that there was a close connection between faith and reason. For most of its history, the church viewed faith as superior to reason and saw no need to justify the truths of Christianity by the use of reason. Aquinas, though, viewed faith and reason as working closely together. In fact, he believed reason could be used to justify many elements of the Christian faith. Unlike some theologians before and after him, Aquinas felt that Christianity need not fear reason. When used correctly it affirmed what God had revealed in Scripture.
Fourth, Aquinas argued that nature reveals many truths about God. For example, studying nature could reveal to a person that God exists and that He is powerful. Thus, Aquinas believed we could learn about God by studying the world. Aquinas did not assert that everything we know about God comes from nature. There were some things that we could only know through special revelation like the Bible. For example, the doctrine of the Trinity and the deity of Jesus Christ can only be known through the Bible.
Michael
Correction:
I guess you will be ok once Catholism is taught as religeous myth.
As a science teacher, my biggest complaint with it is that it misrepresents the scientific meaning of theory, thereby demonstrating that the Cobb County school board doesn't know the difference between a theory and a hypothesis, and further ensuring that Cobb County students won't either.
Can you please define the 'these guys,' to whom you both have referred so patronizingly, or can we presume that you are referring to all of us who disagree with your positions, and that your condescension implies that we apparently haven't 'evolved' as far as you have intellectually.....(sort of like Darwin's condescension toward 'Negros'?)?
I object to that... I have no problem with my kids beign taught evolution (either in public OR private school) as long as it is not taught that it is the ONLY theory, or that it is absolute fact.
I see no harm in this disclaimer. For the people who want it it is important and it is THEIR country too.
Levin on this now.
Levin says ==> NUTS!
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