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To: Dominick
You are so deeply brainwashed. I will pray for your soul.

Mary cannot rescue anyone from anything. Whether or not "saints" pray for you after they are dead I cannot answer, although I do not believe that they do. But even if she can intercede for you to God, this does not mean that whatever she tells God to do, he will do. Therefore she can't tell God that you get to go to Heaven just because you prayed to her 10 times or a million. She has NO BEARING WHATSOEVER ON ANYONE'S SALVATION AND UNTIL YOU CAN GIVE ME A BIBLE VERSE TO COUNTER THAT THEN I MAINTAIN THAT YOU ARE PREACHING HERESY. It would be nice if you could give me some Bible, too, that says Karol can forgive my sins, too (he can't, by the way). You do not enter Heaven by works, therefore that shoots this whole rosary crap right out the window.

As for me not eating Christ, I do take communion. And I eat unleavened bread and drink the fruit of the vine as symbolic of Christ's body and blood. Therefore I was not ignoring a "plank in my eye". Just ignoring your comment.
124 posted on 01/14/2005 6:27:57 AM PST by melbell (There are 10 types of people in the world...those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: melbell
You don't read I can see.

Mary cannot rescue anyone from anything. Whether or not "saints" pray for you after they are dead I cannot answer, although I do not believe that they do. But even if she can intercede for you to God, this does not mean that whatever she tells God to do, he will do.

No this is true, but I would like her as a prayer partner, wouldn't you? I am sure she won't pray for things offensive to God, and God wouldn't grant them would he? Your prayer for me to leave the Church Christ founded would be indeed offensive to God.

She has NO BEARING WHATSOEVER ON ANYONE'S SALVATION AND UNTIL YOU CAN GIVE ME A BIBLE VERSE TO COUNTER THAT THEN I MAINTAIN THAT YOU ARE PREACHING HERESY.

I did. She did not Pray when she said, "My soul does magnify the Lord"? It makes no sense that just because someone dies, they stop praying. I am telling you what the Church holds true for 2000 years. What did man do before the year 397 when St. Jerome compiled the First Bible in it's form today? I don't think they even had a caps lock key.

And I eat unleavened bread and drink the fruit of the vine as symbolic of Christ's body and blood.

GO back and reread the scripture. My body is real food. His Body is his Body, either you eat it or you don't. No symbol is involved.
127 posted on 01/14/2005 6:35:29 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: melbell
I will pray for your soul.

But but but but -- if MARY can't help me with her intercession, how in the world can YOU?

153 posted on 01/14/2005 8:50:02 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: melbell
She has NO BEARING WHATSOEVER ON ANYONE'S SALVATION AND UNTIL YOU CAN GIVE ME A BIBLE VERSE TO COUNTER THAT THEN I MAINTAIN THAT YOU ARE PREACHING HERESY

But boy them PREACHERS can bring you to salvation, can't they?

154 posted on 01/14/2005 8:52:40 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: melbell
It would be nice if you could give me some Bible, too, that says Karol can forgive my sins, too (he can't, by the way).

Oh my goodness - are you serious?

Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained." (John 20:21-23)

Like shooting fish in a barrel. It's almost not fair.

155 posted on 01/14/2005 8:54:50 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: melbell
You do not enter Heaven by works, therefore that shoots this whole rosary crap right out the window.

The Church does not teach that works get you into heaven. The Church teaches that faith saves, not works - HOWEVER - without works, faith withers on the vine. I could copy and paste the entire book of James (OH NO - not the BOOK OF JAMES!), but that would probably put you into an apoplectic fit.

I guess if this "shoots this whole rosary crap right out the window," it pretty much throws out all prayer, devotion, Sunday services, altar calls, praise and worship, Kumbayah singalongs, etc...

156 posted on 01/14/2005 9:01:16 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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