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POPE: SATAN WILL BE VANQUISHED BUT THE FIGHT IS LONG AND HARD (Pope invokes the Apocalypse!)
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Posted on 01/13/2005 8:10:49 AM PST by Rutles4Ever

(AGI) - Vatican City, 12 Jan - The Pope commented today on the Apocalypse before the 7,000 people attending the General Papal Audience today in the Nervi Hall, indicating that the fight between good and evil, personified by Satan, is a very hard one, as shown by the manifold violence and injustice in the world today, however the outcome is certain, evil will be vanquished. Pope John Paul II explained, "God and the Lamb, Christ, surrounded by the 'Council of the Crown', are judging human history in good and evil, but showing us however the ultimate end in salvation and glory. The songs which are found in the Apocalypse and which serve to illustrate the issue of divine glory which regulates the flux, often disconcerting, of the tide of human events". Of great significance is the first part of the hymn intoned by the 24 ancients who seem to incarnate the chosen people in their two historic stages, the twelve tribes of Israel and the twelve apostles of the Church. The Pope continued, Satan, the original adversary, who accused our brothers in the heavenly court, has now been cast down from heaven and therefore no longer has great power. He knows he has not much time left because history is about to see a radical turning point in freedom from evil and therefore he is reacting full of great fury. And then the resurrected Christ will rise up, whose blood is the principle of salvation and who received from the Father royal power over the entire universe, in Him are centred salvation, strength and the kingdom of our God. In his victory are associated the Christian martyrs who chose the path of the cross, not yielding to evil and it virulence, but delivering themselves to the Father and uniting themselves to the death of Christ by means of a testimony of donation and courage which brought them to give up life in order to die". He concluded, "the words of the Apocalypse regarding those who have vanquished Satan and evil through the blood of the Lamb, echo also in the splendid prayer attributed to the Christian martyr Simeon, from Seleucia-Ctesifonte in Persia, 'I will receive life without pain, worry, anguish, persecutor, persecuted, oppressor, oppressed, tyrant or victim, there I will see no threat of king, or terror of prefects, no-one will quote me in court or terrorise me and no-one will drag me or scare me". (AGI) . 121425 GEN 05


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To: Romulus
Freeing people from brutal tyranny is what Christ is all about. The Pope is trying to get people to see that. Some do; some don't.

I think you are seeing what you want in the Pope's statements
81 posted on 01/13/2005 1:15:57 PM PST by uncbob
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To: BikerNYC
I care about what happens in this world, not any other, because this is all we have, so I believe we should do what makes things better here, and that means making the people of Iraq freer.

Seems to contrdict your early statement about Satan

BTW I am interested in making them Iraqis freer in order to make me safer ( That is the main reason we went in there )
82 posted on 01/13/2005 1:18:34 PM PST by uncbob
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To: uncbob
When the Pope warns of the danger to the Christian world of the Sword Of Islam that is rising then I will listen until then he is out of touch with reality

I'm not Catholic, but I'll stand with the Pope rather than the Nuke Mecca crowd.

83 posted on 01/13/2005 1:26:57 PM PST by I Gig Gar (Is civil conversation too much to ask?)
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To: uncbob
Seems to contrdict your early statement about Satan

No. I was playing the devil's advocate.
84 posted on 01/13/2005 1:30:19 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: chs68

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb [is] the light thereof.

Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

Rev 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither [whatsoever] worketh abomination, or [maketh] a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.


85 posted on 01/13/2005 1:30:21 PM PST by Esther Ruth (On Christ the solid rock I stand..... All other ground is sinking Sand.)
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To: I Gig Gar
I'm not Catholic, but I'll stand with the Pope rather than the Nuke Mecca crowd.

It may come to at least a theat to do that

Attitude adjustments sometimes take strong measures

Ask the Japanese about how WWII ended
86 posted on 01/13/2005 1:30:53 PM PST by uncbob
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To: xsmommy

Hmmmmm.


87 posted on 01/13/2005 1:31:45 PM PST by patton (Genisis 3:16)
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To: melbell

Unrepentant. And proud to say so.


88 posted on 01/13/2005 1:32:33 PM PST by ishabibble
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To: Esther Ruth

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev022.html#top

Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed [is] he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.



89 posted on 01/13/2005 1:35:13 PM PST by Esther Ruth (On Christ the solid rock I stand..... All other ground is sinking Sand.)
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To: ishabibble

I'm very very sorry to hear that.

Why is it that Catholics (the ones that I know and have spoken to) claim to believe the Bible to be truth, but refuse to acknowledge those points that are so clear?

Do you think that verse was just kidding? Lying? What?


90 posted on 01/13/2005 1:41:47 PM PST by melbell (There are 10 types of people in the world...those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
As a Catholic, I can tell you that the Pope doesn't just opine on the Apocalypse to general audiences. I'm legitimately stunned - I don't go in for "end times" prognostications, but this is completely different. This reads like an encyclical, and we had all better sit up and take notice...

Are you saying that until just recently these statements concerning the Apocalypse had no credibility with you until it was spoken by the pope?

I am familiar with and have believed in the end time happenings for most of my life as I do the entire Word of God from the book of Genesis through the book of Revelation!

91 posted on 01/13/2005 2:00:27 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: NYer

Possibly the rest of the 3rd Secret?


92 posted on 01/13/2005 2:01:44 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: STARWISE

Exactly! Thanks for stating that!
3rd Secret revealed!


93 posted on 01/13/2005 2:04:29 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: redgolum

Remember we were just speaking about the last details of the 3rd secret that only was revealed to the Pope?


94 posted on 01/13/2005 2:06:59 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: missyme
LOL!
I don't remember talking about Fatima, but do about Og, Magog, and Russian missiles to Syria. But out of curiosity, what where you talking about Fatima?
95 posted on 01/13/2005 2:09:52 PM PST by redgolum
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To: redgolum

On the Mel Gibson thread? or you might be speaking of my thought that Putin-might be the Anti-Christ the demon! :)


96 posted on 01/13/2005 2:12:38 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: missyme

Ping me to it, I don't remember being on a Giboson thread


97 posted on 01/13/2005 2:18:24 PM PST by redgolum
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To: redgolum

Ok...


98 posted on 01/13/2005 2:19:16 PM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: uncbob
Every time some world wide situation occurs all the bible types are predicting the apocalypse

Those existing in Pauls time etc fully expected it back then

And those in past times were wrong because they were ignoring the required conditions that had not been fulfilled. 1948 started the endtime clock ticking in earnest IMO.

MM

99 posted on 01/13/2005 2:21:38 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: redgolum
Og

100 posted on 01/13/2005 2:23:15 PM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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