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Republican to Lead Immigration Revolt Against Bush
Reuters ^ | Jan 12, 2005 | Alan Elsner

Posted on 01/12/2005 12:50:36 PM PST by GOPXtreme20

Republican to Lead Immigration Revolt Against Bush

By Alan Elsner

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Republican member of the House of Representatives vowed on Wednesday to lead a revolt against President Bush (news - web sites)'s immigration reform proposals and predicted that up to 180 party members would support him.

Bush in an interview with the Washington Times published on Wednesday said he plans to force a debate in Congress this year on his proposal that would allow some illegal immigrants to obtain legal work permits in the United States.

Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo, who heads the House Immigration Reform Caucus, said he was determined to block the legislation. The caucus, which had 71 members in the last Congress, argues for stronger action to stop illegal immigration and a reduction of legal migration.

"Why is this so important to the president?" Tancredo said. "Is it just the corporate interests who benefit from cheap labor? Do they have such a strong grip on our president so that he is actually willing to put our nation at risk, because open borders do put our nation at risk?

"Is it petulance, because we were able to stop it in the last Congress? Why is it so important to give amnesty to people who have broken the law?" Tancredo said.

"I'm willing to lead a fight against this and I would say there are at least 180 members of our Republican caucus who are willing at least to stop amnesty for illegal immigrants," he told Reuters in a telephone interview.

Bush has repeatedly said he views immigration reform as an important issue for his second term. In the Washington Times interview, he said it was near the top of his agenda.

"Look, whether or not you agree with the solution or not, we have a problem in America when you've got 8 million undocumented workers here," he said.

BUSH CONFIDENCE

Bush expressed confidence he could win over opponents, as he did in passing tax reform during his first term. "Initially out of the box, some people said, over my dead body would they pass tax relief ... If I listened to all that, I'd just quit, you know. But that's not the way I think."

But analysts agree that immigration reform could be much more divisive for Republicans since growing numbers of rank-and-file voters are becoming concerned at the continued influx of illegal immigrants across the Mexican border.

"No issue, not one, threatens to do more damage to the Republican coalition than immigration," said David Frum, a former White House speech writer in Bush's first term.

"There's no issue where the beliefs and interests of the party rank-and-file diverge more radically from the beliefs and interests of the party's leaders," he wrote in the National Review last month.

Bush insists he is not offering amnesty to illegal immigrants but Tancredo said that was a "manipulation of language, the kind of thing (former President) Bill Clinton would have done. There is an issue of integrity here and an issue of honesty," he said.


TOPICS: US: California; US: Colorado
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To: Sam the Sham

OBL= Osama Bin Laden ? If so, we agree on something.


941 posted on 01/14/2005 8:25:26 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (The Progrossive Democrats are never so small a minority that they can't screw every thing up.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

OBL. Open Borders Lobby.


942 posted on 01/14/2005 8:46:23 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: ClintonBeGone


>" I'm so used to exchanges with tin foil headed kooks that seem to think (wink wink) that shuttin down the Meheeco border to them dark lookin folks somehow woulda stopped dem Aye-rab boys from blowin up our buildins."<

I gave you good info, from reliable news sources, about the threat of an open Mexican border and you come back with an obtuse nasty liitle smear.


You are too ignorant and obtuse to waste time with.
That briliant post of yours would be a *gem* at DU.com

Goodbye


943 posted on 01/14/2005 9:26:08 AM PST by FBD
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To: FBD
Quit deflecting. We were speaking of Islamic terrorists.

As for the coke...supply and demand.
Maybe all those American drug addicts should take gardening jobs.

944 posted on 01/14/2005 9:44:18 AM PST by PRND21
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To: FBD
I gave you good info, from reliable news sources, about the threat of an open Mexican border and you come back with an obtuse nasty liitle smear.

You gave me junk. Stuff on little or no substance, which is how I would describe your theory. Until you can show me that Mexico played a role in Atta's attack on America, I will continue to dismiss your silly theories as just that - silly theories.

945 posted on 01/14/2005 9:46:10 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: GOPXtreme20

A massive invasion by millions of illegals and the total failure to deal with it are an omenous portent for our future. No other event in our lifetime seems so dark as our country's refusal to defend itself. The barbarians are about to sack Rome once again.


946 posted on 01/14/2005 1:08:02 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: FBD; All

As my granddaddy said, "don't confuse 'em with facts, there mind is made up.
New poll up (short time left!)
Do you believe legalizing illegal workers will take pressure off U.S. borders, as President Bush suggests?

Yes 7% 371 votes

No 93% 5320 votes

Total: 5691 votes

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/


947 posted on 01/14/2005 2:41:49 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

bump to your post. ^


948 posted on 01/14/2005 6:19:48 PM PST by FBD
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To: Sam the Sham

LOL! I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, honest, Osama Bin Laden was the only thing I could work out of those initials at the time, I was fairly certain that was wrong.

I am also against the Open Borders Lobby-their agenda is insane.


949 posted on 01/14/2005 6:23:28 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (The Progrossive Democrats are never so small a minority that they can't screw every thing up.)
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To: Barlowmaker
If not, there are three thousand Mexican guys who are happy to have it. They'll be there at 7 am. They'll stay till 9 pm if ya want them too. That's half what they'd earn in a year pounding nails in Veracruz.

I'll decline your job offer because I'm not interested in being pushed off a roof by one of your 3000 desperate and lawless employees.

950 posted on 01/14/2005 7:26:07 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: FITZ
Fox has a political reason for the puffery. He and W are on agreement about everything, he wants to puff up Mexico'soverignity and influence within the US. DOESN'T MEAN IT'S TRUE!

FITZ, the 2000 Census counted 38 million "Hispanic" citizens. (I know, it's ridiculous methodology and labelling).

Do you really maintain there are nearly 80 million Hispanics in the U.S.A. out of an approximate 310 (legal and illegal) million populaton? One of four?

Quit adding that peyote to your pipe pal.
951 posted on 01/14/2005 9:36:27 PM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker

Yes I think that's likely ---- remember --- illegals tend not to get counted in the census --- hispanics now outnumber blacks and likely by quite a lot. In many areas of the USA they outnumber everyone --- here they're 90% of the population.

Vicente Fox claims there are 25 million of his citizens in the USA. That's the figure I use.


952 posted on 01/15/2005 7:48:32 AM PST by FITZ
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To: F.J. Mitchell; ninenot; Barlowmaker; ClintonBeGone

The problem with your suggested approach, F.J. Mitchell, is that it is precisely what not to do.

This issue isn't about Democrat vs Republican or liberal vs conservative because there are OBL's in both parties and patriots in both parties. It is about the Party of Money vs everyone else. It is about the Party of Cheap Labor, be it New Democrat or WSJ Republican. It doesn't win at the ballot box because its agenda is hostile to the wellbeing of this country. It wins in the smoke filled room. It wins in the shadows where deals are struck.

If you try to fight its agenda by quietly criticizing it as you say, you will be steamrollered by money every time. If you don't loudly hold their feet to the fire, calling attention to their schemes from the rooftops, most of your elected representatives WILL quietly sell you out.


953 posted on 01/17/2005 6:58:58 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham
It doesn't win at the ballot box because its agenda is hostile to the wellbeing of this country.

You're clearly talking about your big labor, protectionist, anti-capitalist, socialist agenda. Because as far as I can see, the agenda for free trade, global competition and open borders consistently wins at the 'national' ballot box, whether during the Clinton era or the Bush era.

954 posted on 01/17/2005 7:39:39 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: GOPXtreme20

GOOD


955 posted on 01/17/2005 7:40:20 AM PST by Scythian
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To: FITZ
here they're 90% of the population

That's enough to make a good WASP queezy.

956 posted on 01/17/2005 7:41:00 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Being anti-immigration means being anti-capitalist now, ClintonBeGone?

Newsflash, dude: capitalism is great, everyone knows this. But there are ways to use capitalism to our advantage, and the simplest is restricting the supply of labor. This causes wages to go up as per basic laws of supply and demand. If this doesn't happen then everything we know about economics is a dirty lie.
957 posted on 01/20/2005 10:31:33 AM PST by Liberty Landing
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To: Liberty Landing; Dane
But there are ways to use capitalism to our advantage, and the simplest is restricting the supply of labor. This causes wages to go up as per basic laws of supply and demand.

And this nugget comes from your reading of Lenin or Stalin? Or are you just reciting the text of the poster in your union hall?

958 posted on 01/20/2005 11:25:51 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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