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'SOCKS DOCS' JURY GRILLS CLINTON CRONY
New York Post ^ | 1/12/05 | IAN BISHOP and DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 01/11/2005 11:41:41 PM PST by kattracks

Former Clinton White House Mr. Fix-It Bruce Lindsey emerged tight-lipped yesterday after testifying before a federal grand jury probing whether top-secret documents were illegally removed from the National Archives.

The grand jury probe, reported exclusively in The Post Tuesday, is digging into why another former Bill Clinton aide, Sandy Berger, sneaked the national security documents out of the Archives — possibly in his socks.

Lindsey denied any inside knowledge about Berger's sticky fingers.

"All I know is what he [Berger] said. He made a public statement," said Lindsey, Clinton's deputy White House counsel, after testifying under oath yesterday.

Berger admits walking off with 40 to 50 top-secret documents from the archives, but claims it was an "honest mistake" while vetting documents for the 9/11 commission.

Berger has admitted destroying some documents — he says by mistake.

Lindsey declined comment on what he told the grand jury, but denied reports that he met with Berger in New York for crisis control as the scandal erupted last summer.

[snip]

Among the documents Berger lifted were multiple drafts of a report assessing the 2000 millennium threat that is said to conclude that only luck prevented a terrorist attack then.

That conflicts with Berger's sworn testimony to the commission — he claimed "we thwarted" millennium attacks by being vigilant, not lucky.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
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To: Mo1
I have been looking for information on Gulfsands Oil, but I can find no information on who owns it (it is privately held). They have oil leases in South America and the Middle East, and recently entered into an agreement with a Canadian company.

Very unusual not to be able to find the name of the owner of a company. I think I will mosey to the Texas Secretary of State's site and see what I can find.

321 posted on 01/12/2005 11:22:45 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

Yes, you were correct.

While I was doing chores I was mulling this over. It appears Carlin was asked to leave due to Berger getting away with his misdeeds under his watch (I think this due to the previously detailed timelines).

Since Carlin didn't apparently obstruct attempts to catch Berger in the act, I'm inclined to think his resignation was requested due to the lapse occurring while he was in charge, and not due to culpability in the actual bad acts and so I'm thinking he's not involved in the scheme.


322 posted on 01/12/2005 11:23:55 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Peach
"If Iraq can be shown to be behind the February 1993 attack on the Trade Center, that makes the case a great deal stronger. Some people do not want that case to be made, because they don't want us to go to war with Iraq."

I have great respect for Mylorie (after all, she supports my thinking here :). These same people now want us to believe that going into Iraq was a hugh mistake. Saddam was a very great danger to this country, so thank you GWB, and to the finest military in the history of the earth.

323 posted on 01/12/2005 11:24:29 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: cyncooper

Maybe. I am still thinking that some people at the archives were paid off. I sure would like to know if any lower-level employees were terminated or called before the grand jury. That would give us a clue.


324 posted on 01/12/2005 11:27:37 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: pbrown
Ramsey has signed on to defend Saddam. An old Kerry co-hort from way back:

See also:

Vietnamese General confirms KERRY Caused America to Lose Vietnam War http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1197075/posts

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He further stated the North Vietnamese leadership listened to the American evening news broadcasts "to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement." Visits to Hanoi made by persons such as Jane Fonda, former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and various church ministers "gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."

325 posted on 01/12/2005 11:27:51 AM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: pbrown

Still trying to confirm that....


326 posted on 01/12/2005 11:28:59 AM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: tillacum
The Archivists didn't call the FBI first? It makes me wonder why

I'm inclined to believe they just couldn't believe it (if they were Freepers they would have right off the bat!), but they were concerned enough to do the markings and watch him carefully. Perhaps they felt they needed to have evidence before going to the authorities for fear they wouldn't be believed. The fact they did set him up makes me think they were not in cahoots.

327 posted on 01/12/2005 11:29:11 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Miss Marple

Wasn't Arafat nosing around with Canadian oil investments?


328 posted on 01/12/2005 11:34:29 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Peach
IMO, this is one of the big things Berger was attempting to cover up with his theft.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Yup!

Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2003 11:29 a.m. EDT

Clinton Emissary Said to be Bin Laden Bag Man

A man accused of funneling cash from Osama bin Laden to a radical Muslim cleric who helped plan the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center was on the payroll of the Clinton administration throughout the 1990s.

Abdurahman Alamoudi, who was arrested Sunday after being accused of trying to smuggle $340,000 in cash from Libya to terrorist groups in Syria, worked at the Clinton State Department as a global emissary for religious tolerance.

When confronted with news of the curious arrangement just a week before Mrs. Clinton was elected to the Senate, a State Department spokesman told the New York Daily News that Alamoudi "has been traveling primarily to Muslim countries to address the topic of Islamic life in the U.S., including the rights of Muslims in America as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and the status of the American Islamic community."

Today, however, the New York Post reports that the former Clinton diplomat "was suspected of funneling cash from Osama bin Laden to Blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman in the failed attempt to blow up New York City landmarks."

The blind sheik's speechwritier, who has turned government informant, told investigators that bin Laden "routinely funneled $5,000 payments to Rahman through Alamoudi and his organization, the American Muslim Council," the paper said.

The suspected bin Laden bag man was hired by the Clinton State Department a year after President Clinton turned down an offer from the government of Sudan for the al-Qaeda chief's arrest and extradition to America.

[snip] Full story

329 posted on 01/12/2005 11:35:50 AM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: JesseJane

Once a traitor....always a traitor. sKerry is dog *hit. And his bud, Clark.


330 posted on 01/12/2005 11:36:24 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
Hmmmm. I vaguely remember something about his investments, but I didn't remember oil.

I can't search the Texas corporations without opening an account and paying for each search. It's not that much money, but I would have a hard time explaining these charges on our credit card to my husband. LOL!

331 posted on 01/12/2005 11:36:35 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: lonevoice

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332 posted on 01/12/2005 11:46:06 AM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: Miss Marple
It's not that much money, but I would have a hard time explaining these charges on our credit card to my husband. LOL!

I understand completely...lol

A few days after the old terrorists death, I remember them talking about his hundreds of millions of dollars. Somewhere in all that crap, if I remember correctly, I heard Canadian oil company mentioned. I could be wrong, my brain cells are getting up there in years.

333 posted on 01/12/2005 11:52:05 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: JesseJane

You know, that information about Clinton's emissary being an OBL money man was in one of the books I read about terrorism some time back.

I type notes in Word about various books and will look to see if I can find more information. I hope it wasn't a book I read before we had a computer crash.


334 posted on 01/12/2005 11:54:43 AM PST by Peach (The Cl intons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: JesseJane
[Alamoudi] worked at the Clinton State Department as a global emissary for religious tolerance.

LOL! Don't you just love that "tolerance" stuff?

335 posted on 01/12/2005 11:55:17 AM PST by livius
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To: JesseJane
Today, however, the New York Post reports that the former Clinton diplomat "was suspected of funneling cash from Osama bin Laden to Blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman in the failed attempt to blow up New York City landmarks."

Then I say we put the squeeze on that white trash, leftist attorney of his, Lynne Stewart

336 posted on 01/12/2005 11:56:55 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: livius

LOL...yes! Muslim tolerance of infidels is equivalent to Democrats tolerance for Republicans and Freedom of Speech.


337 posted on 01/12/2005 11:58:00 AM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: livius; cyncooper; Liz; pbrown; Peach; cake_crumb; Howlin

I gotta take a break, but will be back later!! Great thread... good posts, links!!


338 posted on 01/12/2005 12:02:07 PM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: Peach

That was a bad link in my #287.

Another note on that blog says that CNN ran a scroll that said one of the documents that was missing concerns the WTC 1993 bombing.

Page 339 of the Senate Intelligence Committee Report states that there are provacative links between Iraq and the first WTC attack in 1993 and the 9/11 attacks.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1170056/posts


339 posted on 01/12/2005 12:09:52 PM PST by Peach (The Cl intons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Miss Marple; cyncooper

It would be very interesting to know who let Berger get away with this, and who turned him in. I am not fully familiar with their procedures (having never consulted the National Archives, and certainly never having been allowed anywhere near a Top Secret document!), but I recall from earlier threads that the users were monitored, at least from outside the room, by an archives employee - although I don't know what level. Perhaps a security guard? In any case, archivists always count the pages when documents go out and count them when they come back in, as well as looking through them to make sure that no one has replaced them with blank pages, etc.

It seems unlikely that Berger got the same archives employee on every single visit (although I don't know how many there are or how busy the place is). It is possible that some of them got careless because they had seen him so often (this happened in the case of a researcher who was stealing from the Vatican archives, IIRC), so perhaps they didn't check very closely. Or perhaps they were told not to?

I guess I'm trying to figure out how he thought he was going to pull this off, over such a long period of time and in a place with more than one employee and a set of security systems. I don't think he would have tried it unless he thought he had high level protection, that is, that it had been arranged with someone who had the power to override the rules. That person could only be Carlin.

Personally, I think Carlin's "cooperation" in catching Berger may have been motivated by the threat of jail. The archivist could certainly go away for a long time for arranging the theft of documents, but perhaps he got a deal in exchange for not tipping off Berger.

As for the person behind Berger and Carlin, that could only be Clinton. But I'm not holding my breath on it being pinned on him, because Bush would never do anything that would reveal the level of corruption of the Clinton regime. This is not to protect Clinton, I believe, but because Bush thinks revealing such scandals would undermine the people's faith in the government. My opinion, at least.


340 posted on 01/12/2005 12:10:09 PM PST by livius
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