Posted on 01/10/2005 11:15:03 AM PST by Momaw Nadon
ARLINGTON -- On a spring day, Susan Lawrence was flipping through a magazine, Home School Digest, when she came across an advertisement that took her breath away. In it, ''The Rod," a $5 flexible whipping stick, was described as the ''ideal tool for child training."
''Spoons are for cooking, belts are for holding up pants, hands are for loving, and rods are for chastening," read the advertisement she saw nearly two years ago for the 22-inch nylon rod. It also cited a biblical passage, which instructs parents not to spare the ''rod of correction."
The ad shocked Lawrence, a Lutheran who home-schools her children and opposes corporal punishment. She began a national campaign to stop what she sees as the misuse of the Bible as a justification for striking children. She also asked the federal government to deem The Rod hazardous to children, and ban the sale of all products designed for spanking. Lawrence says striking children violates the Golden Rule from the Gospel of Matthew in the New Testament: ''In everything do to others as you would have them do to you."
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My oldest is in cllege, the youngest is a senior in high school.
Who said that I do not or have not diciplined my kids? I only said that I never spanked them. There are many forms of dicipline.
I saw your #30. All I can say is that you'd be well advised to use this thing in the privacy of your home, and not where I can see you doing it.
Whips are for bulls, not children. If a swat with your hand isn't sufficient for disciplining a child, then something's wrong.
Use "The Rod" in my presence and you'll be meeting the Child Protective Services. I guarantee it.
For taming brides and winning wagers
For tanning hides of smart teen-agers
For stopping hiccups, fights and spats
For puddling pups and careless cats
For mice and ants on picnic trips
For paddling pants when baby drips
For wives at night when hubby's late
For counting right on a birthday date!
It was made of plywood and didn't hurt at all, it was just the humiliation of being swatted with it that did the trick! I think it was only used on me twice!
Ooooh, now I'm scared.
"Ooooh, now I'm scared."
Forewarned is forearmed. We have laws designed to protect children. Adults don't get spanked. They get to visit the gray-bar hotel.
Wow. my parents and your parents must've been in the same circle of friends. My dad used the belt and my mom either sent us for the switch or grabbed the nearest toy/object she could find. She used the race track, rulers, bunk bed boards. Once, she even used my dad's decorative civil war gun on my brother. Of course he used it on my younger brother first before she grabbed it and chased him around the house with it. Funny site to see- especially cause my mom is like 4'10" and my bro was almost six feet tall.
[ahem] ... that is a vast generalization...
I would say he's giving you good advice. I would help a child that was being hit with something like that too.
"And personally I do like the looks of this product."
You do? Well, I guess it wouldn't do any good to call the cops in Montana on someone using "The Rod," would it?
Personally, I don't like the idea of using a whip on a child. Sorry...that's just me. The palm of the hand should be sufficient.
That's a bizarre question. Have you read the thread?
My apologies. I had not read all of your comments. Sorry.
I still say many parents spank out of laziness. Not all, many.
No problem.
"I have never used any other instrument except my hand on their bottoms."
I can't imagine a situation where that would not be sufficient. This rod thing is borderline obscene. It smacks of serious abuse.
I said: "I don't think there is a good replacement for physical punishment.
You said: "What a pity. That's the laziness I was talking about."
Your reply is bascically nonsense. It has nothing to do with laziness, I was clearly talking about the most appropriate form of punishment. For those occassions where it is called for, there is no good substitute. If you disagree, fine but don't ascribe attributes to my suggustion which are clearly not there.
You then said: "Works well. But I never talked about punishment. The fact that you find them synonymous is telling."
Of course you were talking about punishment. That is the form of discipline which this thread is addressing. The fact that you are trying to mislead is what is really telling.
It sounds like you are a very good parent. I don't think anyone would call your methods lazy at all.
If only everyone were so thoughtful.
We bought several redwood "Attitude Adjuster" paddles when we went up the west coast years ago.
They were great. Often just the threat was necessary. They "mysteriously" disappeared. We often lament their loss. : )
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