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Archbishop of Canterbury admits: This makes me doubt the existence of God
Telegraph ^ | 01/02/05 | Chris Hastings,

Posted on 01/01/2005 4:22:44 PM PST by Pikamax

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To: Pikamax
This should cinch it for Anglicans and Episcopalians ---

Williams is no longer qualified for his spiritual office, and should be tried for heresy and summarily dismissed.

While I doubt that the Anglican communion has the courage to hold this man accountable, I am sure he will stand before the judgment seat of Christ and give an account for his tenure as AoC.

I wouldn't care to be in his shoes when Jesus asks him to explain:

(1) His recent participation in Druidic pagan rituals, or...

(2) His tacit approval to permit/encourage/tolerate the ordination of homosexuals or pro-homosex ministers to serve the holy Body of Christ, or...

(3)THIS... wavering statement of doubt instead of the witness of faith that God is in control.

Memo to AoC: Please take the time to read, interpret, and apply the principles of Biblical theology and practice to your personal life.

Have a nice day....

101 posted on 01/01/2005 5:01:42 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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To: Pikamax

I A to Archbishop.......SHADDUP!!!!


102 posted on 01/01/2005 5:05:07 PM PST by international american ((Pray for the millions of lives disrupted by tsunami.))
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To: AnAmericanMother

To those of us teetering on the edge of leaving the Episcopal Church USA, this is just another nudge.

Unfortunately this looney is nominal head of the worldwide Anglican communion. The vast majority of Anglicans today are from Africa, and the quite-conservative African Anglican bishops may not put up with this quackery this time.


103 posted on 01/01/2005 5:05:14 PM PST by Nabber
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To: Mr. Mojo

I believe it's a sign of the End Times, simply because I can't remember so many disasters (natural and man-made) in my lifetime.

How long this will last I don't know, but I think what was written in Revelation is occurring now.

JMHO.


104 posted on 01/01/2005 5:06:11 PM PST by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: Gum Shoe

Amen


105 posted on 01/01/2005 5:06:56 PM PST by Krodg
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To: vrwcagent0498
I believe it's a sign of the End Times, simply because I can't remember so many disasters (natural and man-made) in my lifetime.

During the late 20s/early 30s there was a string of natural disasters that dwarfed those we've seen recently. And I'm sure you're familiar with man-made disasters in the late 30s/early 40s. ......where tens of millions perished.

106 posted on 01/01/2005 5:10:09 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: vrwcagent0498
I believe it's a sign of the End Times, simply because I can't remember so many disasters (natural and man-made) in my lifetime.

There are 3 24 hour cable TV news networks now. Stuff gets covered more extensively.

Back during the Tangshan earthquake in the 70s that killed 200,000+ I bet it might have gotten 10 minutes total coverage on the 30 minute evening news (mostly due to the secretive nature of the Communist Chinese.)

107 posted on 01/01/2005 5:13:00 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: visualops
The "fall" of man upset natures perfect harmony

Exactly!
So many either haven't learned or have forgotton that fact.

I don't believe that it's a fact that is widely taught because so many don't understand. Most peoples first reaction is to blame God then ask why he didn't stop it.

108 posted on 01/01/2005 5:13:49 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (I'm not depressed? I must be a Republican!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well, the Archbishop of Canterbury is closer to God than the stupid tools lying about increases in earthquakes, etc. to further their apocalyptikook religious agenda, or those fabricating the idea that Christians were miraculously saved in this disaster, which was especially designed to kill Muslims by God.


109 posted on 01/01/2005 5:14:49 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Pikamax

Just consider the man to really be a Druid priest and it all makes sense ...


110 posted on 01/01/2005 5:15:06 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Pikamax

I left the Episcopal church many years ago because of its
leftist leanings ie: The National Council of Churches.

Its prayer book is the most Christian writing second only to the Bible itself, but many of the leaders do not truly follow its teachings.

Actually, the tsunami is very scriptural, along with earthquakes, other weather abnormalities, pestilence wars and rumors of wars, hatred, etc., etc., etc.. I've had
Catholic priests ask me, incredulantly, if I really believe in the resurection of Jesus Christ.

I guess Diviniity School isn't what it used to be.


111 posted on 01/01/2005 5:19:04 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: sionnsar

Ping for Anglican/Episcopal list if you haven't seen this yet?


112 posted on 01/01/2005 5:19:29 PM PST by Ryle
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To: Pikamax
Somebody needs to sit down with a bottle of Dr. Pepper and read The Book of Job from the Bible.

Real slow.

Maybe two or three times.

113 posted on 01/01/2005 5:21:15 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Anyone else see irony in invading Iraq [w/no nukes] while N. Korea kept on making nukes [9 now] ?)
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To: Pikamax

The man's in the wrong job.

It's going to get a LOT worse before it gets permanently better.

If he only likes / loves / trusts / believes in God when things are going his way, he doesn't truly know God, Scripture, or the state of the world. He obviously doesn't have a clue how to be a spiritual leader.


114 posted on 01/01/2005 5:23:42 PM PST by GretchenM (Was Santa Claus' inventor an entitlement-driven liberal?)
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To: Age of Reason

God already has angels that do his bidding, they are not subject to living with the earthly battle (...the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak). Their's is a perfect world of immortality. We humans are literally in a proving ground.

Don't know God, you say? If you earnestly want salvation for your soul, then obey the Gospel. Jesus Christ trained the original leaders of the church, and he didn't mess up.
Jesus told Peter, "When thou art converted strengthen the brethern". Peter received this power, along with many others, in Acts chapter 2. He in turn told those that wanted to be saved, "Repent and be baptised, everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."(Acts 2:38). This is a supernatural experience. I used to make fun of people that "spoke in tongues" until it happened to me.


115 posted on 01/01/2005 5:25:00 PM PST by Zuriel (God is the Rock)
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To: frgoff

"Considering how and why the Anglican church started, it's little wonder the Anglican church struggles with matters of faith."

Seems like you and the good ol' Archbishop of Canterbury might be cut from the same cloth. You and he could both stand to read up a bit.....


116 posted on 01/01/2005 5:25:39 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Pikamax
Important perspective on this subject: Waves of Sadness
117 posted on 01/01/2005 5:26:11 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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To: Pikamax

The remarks of the Archbishop strike me as coming from one
who not only has a very weak theological understanding of
the nature of human suffering and evil but as one who is
extremely naive. Hasn't he ANY knowledge of human history?
Or does he think this is the world's first natural disaster? If we look at mankind's additional contribution
to evil and suffering how about the 50 million deaths in
two world wars? Terrible as the loss is in Indonesia it
is a pittance if we look back just to the 20th century.
No wonder religion in Britain is virtually defunct!


118 posted on 01/01/2005 5:26:30 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: Pikamax
GEESH!

Don't these people read the Bible?

Specifically the Book of Job?

Here was a guy that did everything right. Satan approached God and stated that Job was loyal to Him only because of blessings. So he challenged God. He did all kinds of things to Job and his family. Still Job believed. Job's friends hardly consoled him - stupid human wisdom was what they offered - such as Job did something wrong to have these tragedies happen to him. None of it was true. Job had done nothing wrong. Job's faith was being tested. When Job finally confronted God and questioned Him, God gently put Job in his place. God doesn't answer to mere mortals.

The point to be taken from this is, God has His reasons and at times they are not for us to know.
119 posted on 01/01/2005 5:27:47 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Pikamax

All publicity is good publicity, eh Arch?


120 posted on 01/01/2005 5:27:50 PM PST by Ruddles
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