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Chiropractic school angers FSU professors
St. Petersburg Times ^ | December 29, 2004 | By RON MATUS, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 01/01/2005 7:13:21 AM PST by aculeus

Some threaten to resign over the proposed school.

A growing number of professors in the Florida State University College of Medicine are saying they will resign if FSU administrators continue to pursue a proposed chiropractic school.

"I would no longer wish to volunteer my teaching energies to FSU medical school, should it encompass a school of chiropractic," wrote Dr. Ian Rogers, an assistant professor at FSU's Pensacola campus, in a Dec. 15 e-mail. "This is plainly ludicrous!!!!"

The threatened resignations - at least seven to date, all from assistant professors who work part time - reflect a belief among many in the medical establishment that chiropractic is a "pseudo-science" that leads to unnecessary and sometimes harmful treatments. Professors are even circulating a parody map of campus that places a fictional Bigfoot Institute, School of Astrology and Crop Circle Simulation Laboratory near a future chiropractic school.

But the professors' stance has a political aim, too.

Opposition is clearly mounting as the chiropractic school heads for crucial votes in January before the FSU board of trustees and the state Board of Governors.

In fact, the school is now seen as a test case for the fledgling Board of Governors, which critics have accused of kowtowing to Gov. Jeb Bush and the Legislature on the higher education issues it is supposed to oversee.

FSU was closed for the holidays Tuesday. FSU president T.K. Wetherell, provost Larry Abele and John Thrasher, chairman of the FSU board of trustees, could not be reached for comment.

But Sen. Dennis Jones, the Treasure Island Republican who spearheaded legislative support for the school in the spring, said the professors were "overreacting."

He accused anti-chiropractic groups from outside the state of stirring faculty opposition at FSU.

"If they resign, so be it," said Jones, a chiropractor himself. The instructors don't deserve to teach at FSU, he said, "if they're putting their credentials with people known for promoting professional bigotry."

The Legislature appropriated $9-million annually for the chiropractic school, which was pushed by Jones and then-Senate President Jim King, R-Jacksonville, an FSU graduate. It would be the only school of its kind in the country.

As supporters envision it, more than 100 new faculty members would train legions of chiropractors, with a special emphasis on Hispanic and African-American students. The school would also draw lucrative federal grants in alternative medicine.

Planning began years ago, but criticism didn't ramp up until after the legislative session.

Some opponents see the school as an end run around the Board of Governors, which oversees the state's 11 universities but has yet to consider the chiropractic school. Last week, a group headed by former university system chancellor E.T. York filed a lawsuit against the board, accusing it of failing to flex its constitutionally granted muscle and pointing to the chiropractic school as a prime example.

But some FSU faculty members are upset, too, fearing the school will shatter FSU's academic reputation. The list of critics include FSU's two Nobel laureates - Robert Schreiffer, a physicist, and Harold Walter Kroto, a chemist - and Robert Holton, the chemistry professor who developed the cancer-fighting drug Taxol, which has brought FSU tens of millions of dollars in royalties.

In recent weeks, more than 500 faculty members have signed petitions against the chiropractic school, including about 70 in the medical college, said Dr. Raymond Bellamy, an assistant professor who is leading the charge against the proposal. The medical college has more than 100 faculty members.

Some of them say they're willing to do more than sign a petition.

"I teach wonderful medical students from Florida State University here in Orlando," Dr. James W. Louttit wrote in an e-mail to Bellamy, who shared it with the St. Petersburg Times. "If they decide to start a chiropractic school I would no longer be able to support this program."

"It should come as no surprise that no major medical institution in this country, public or private, has embraced chiropractic medicine," wrote Dr. Henry Ho, a Winter Park physician and FSU assistant professor, in another e-mail. "If Florida State University were to do so, its fledgling attempt for credibility as a medical institution of stature would be severely jeopardized."

The situation at FSU isn't the first time chiropractors have sought to tie themselves to an established university.

In the late 1990s, faculty at York University in Toronto - one of Canada's largest schools - considered plans to affiliate with Canadian Memorial Chiropractic College. The plan would have brought York millions of dollars in new facilities and donations and given the chiropractic school academic credibility.

After a bitter, years-long fight, York faculty narrowly vetoed the plan in 2001.

At FSU, faculty have not officially voiced their concerns about the chiropractic school. Bellamy said they fear retaliation from lawmakers if they do.

"Everybody wants somebody else to kill it," he said.

Ron Matus can be reached at 727 893-8873 or

matus@sptimes.com

© Copyright 2003 St. Petersburg Times. All rights reserved


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KEYWORDS: academia; chiropractic; fsu; health; healthcare
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To: Pharmboy
I remember reading about a case where a woman told a chiropractor she was having trouble seeing. Instead of suggesting she have her eyes examined by an ophthalmologist or optometrist, he assured her he could fix the problem through chiropractic adjustment. In the course of performing that technique, he bruised her spinal cord, the woman collapsed and died.

Her family sued the D.C. and what I was reading was the appellate court's decision affirming the trial court's verdict against him.

21 posted on 01/01/2005 7:35:03 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: aculeus

The is b***t! The American Medical Association recognizes chiropractic as legitimate. Chiropractors have the same basic medical education as all doctors do. I go to a chiropractor on a regular basis. Have much less pain, and more mobility and don't have to take those expensive dangerous drugs which doctors love to prescribe!


22 posted on 01/01/2005 7:35:05 AM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
A Chiropractic School would be better next to the Law School.

How 'bout "Instead of the Law School?"

23 posted on 01/01/2005 7:37:06 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: aculeus

I've had nothing but excellent, professional care from my Chiropractor, though I don't doubt that there are bad chiros out there, just like there are bad doctors and bad lawyers and bad paper boys.

With bad lower back problems (genetic deformity, not disc-related, plus aggravated by years of grinding Army life) my chiro has been a lifesaver for me. When my back goes out I am down for the count.

I love being able to walk. Makes life a whole lot easier for me!


24 posted on 01/01/2005 7:37:07 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: aculeus; All
"It should come as no surprise that no major medical institution in this country, public or private, has embraced chiropractic medicine," wrote Dr. Henry Ho,..... which IMHO is short sighted and un-productive. It probably has denied a lot of people relief that a chiropractor could bring. There is a branch of medicine, I believe that borders on chiropractic...they are D.O.'s that have all the priveleges and responsibilities of M.D.'s, but also know manipulation.

What would be useful would be(and I believe ther are beginning to be some) a clinic staffed with good M.D.'s, Chiropractors, nutritionists, and other "healers"..

Dang, now I have stepped in it....healers=witch doctors and shamans....well maybe if the M.D.'s have found no physical or medical problems?....

What say you all?

25 posted on 01/01/2005 7:37:47 AM PST by B.O. Plenty
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To: aculeus
The threatened resignations - at least seven to date, all from assistant professors who work part time - reflect a belief among many in the medical establishment that chiropractic is a "pseudo-science" that leads to unnecessary and sometimes harmful treatments.

Yet the university probably has a psychology college and a womens studies department.

26 posted on 01/01/2005 7:37:47 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: CholeraJoe

Nutjob ping.


27 posted on 01/01/2005 7:38:15 AM PST by secret garden (Gig'em Aggies!)
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To: dighton; general_re; Pharmboy
The School of UFO Abduction Studies will be dedicated to this late Harvard professor.
28 posted on 01/01/2005 7:38:34 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Pharmboy

Be careful, Doc-

Stroke
May 2001 (Volume 32, Number 5)


Chiropractic Manipulation and Stroke: A Population-Based Case-Control Study

Rothwell DM, Bondy SJ, Williams I, et al.
Stroke. 2001;32(5):1054-1060

Dissection of the extracranial carotid or vertebral arteries can result in cerebral infarction. The injury may produce hemorrhage into the vessel wall leading to occlusion of the vessel or possible thrombus formation with subsequent embolization. In comparison to atherosclerotic stroke, the patients who suffer carotid or vertebral artery dissection tend to be younger in age and the injury may occur spontaneously or in association with trauma. Several case reports have suggested a link between vertebral artery dissection and chiropractic manipulation of the neck. In this new study, Rothwell and colleagues conducted a recent population-based, nested, case-control study to examine the possible association.
...

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/404178


29 posted on 01/01/2005 7:38:59 AM PST by Peelod (Perversion is not festive)
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To: aculeus

Forgot to say this map is funny!


30 posted on 01/01/2005 7:39:07 AM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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To: aculeus
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I have a pretty low opinion of Chiropractors. I have never used one myself, but those who have (that I know of) always come away worse or dependent. My father's back was ruined by a quack Chiropractor during his first visit. He had to be taken away in an ambulance and spent years in pain. When Dad sued, he found out this guy (who was recommended!) already had a number of lawsuits pending.

My Brother-in-law's case is probably more routine. He has been going to a Chiropractor for the last 10 years and is hopelessly dependent on his services. Every time I visit my Sister, he will often leave abruptly for the Dr. to get an adjustment. In a given week (my usual stay), he goes at least twice. A couple of times he has become incapacitated and work and my Sister has to pick him up and drive him to the Chiropractor. My Sister has complained on many occasions about the situation (especially the bills), but Mike insists this guy is the only one who can relieve his pain--he refuses to see a regular doctor (largely due to his Chiropractor's propaganda). According to my Sister, his back condition has gone from mild to very bad over the years. I know of several other people in a situation similar to Mike's.

I think what happens is that these guys know how to provide short term relief, but their techniques make the underlying problem worse. As a result, their patients become hopelessly dependent on them--like drug addicts. Medical doctors, for all their faults, do try to cure patients (excluding psychiatrists). I think many Chiropractors only have interest in getting repeat business.

I know a lot of you will disagree with me, but thats what I think. Let the flames begin...
31 posted on 01/01/2005 7:39:28 AM PST by rbg81
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To: KeyLargo
Yes, Chiropractic fraud cannot exist without ambulance chasing attorneys arranging and setting up insurance fraud schemes with clinics and chiros.

Absolutely correct analysis. Chiropractic would vanish if there were ever serious reform of the crooked and parasitic lawyer industry.

32 posted on 01/01/2005 7:40:50 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: elli1
But of course--when my hip & back get gimpy, my chiropractor fixes me right up with one $25 office visit and no drugs.

When I developed serious low back problems, my orthopedist, who was postiviely crestfallen that surgery was not indicated, tossed me a 'script for Celebrex and told me to knock off the exercise. Luckily, I was smart enough to investigate alternatives with a chiropractor. Saved my life (maybe literally). I can see why the Sawbones are so upset.

33 posted on 01/01/2005 7:41:16 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: aculeus
I chuckle when these professional back-snappers call themselves doctors.
34 posted on 01/01/2005 7:41:20 AM PST by boycott
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To: aculeus

Not all chiropractors are bad... some people don't like their $$$$$ being taken away.


35 posted on 01/01/2005 7:43:14 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pharmboy

Coffee enemas are good for you :o)


36 posted on 01/01/2005 7:43:34 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: FormerACLUmember

I have a friend who is a surgeon and he loved them. They keep the "unsick" out of the doctor's offices and most can fix a variety of problems with simple solutions.


37 posted on 01/01/2005 7:43:37 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: rbg81
I know a lot of you will disagree with me, but thats what I think. Let the flames begin...

Not a flame but one has to take what they have to offer that works for most, including me (fixing acute back problems) and rejecting all the rest (vitamins, return "maintenance" visits, X-Rays, cancer treatment, etc.)

38 posted on 01/01/2005 7:45:00 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Pharmboy
Here. Here. I was in a bad car accident several years ago, and yes, it was cuts and soft tissue injuries. My medical expenses were all covered and I was sent to all kinds of medical specialists who put me all kinds of contraptions for months on end. And I was told I would have to accept drugs as a permanent solution to the pain.

I saw a new MD on a different matter during all this and he wrote me a referral to a chiropractor. The chiropractor completely handled my case in a matter of weeks. I don't have pain and I don't live on drugs.

39 posted on 01/01/2005 7:45:08 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
My car got hit in a parking lot and I was about 200 yards away. Shortly after taking it to the body shop I started getting calls from lawyers and chiropractors.

My favorite chiropractor scam here in NY City are the carloads of 6 Russians tapping the bumper of a car with 6 Haitians in faked car accidents. All then get $50,000 each of phony no fault chiropractic treatment billed to No-Fault (which pays no questions asked!).

40 posted on 01/01/2005 7:45:15 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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