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Abbas: There will be no peace until Israel tears down separation fence
Reuters/Ha'artez ^ | 29 December 2004 | Reuters

Posted on 12/29/2004 1:52:58 PM PST by anotherview

Last Update: 29/12/2004 23:05
Abbas: There will be no peace until Israel tears down separation fence
By Reuters

Taking his campaign to succeed Yasser Arafat to the foot of the West Bank separation fence, PLO chief Mahmoud Abbas said on Wednesday there would be no peace until Israel tore it down.

"No (Middle East) peace can transpire with (Jewish) settlements and the wall," Abbas said with his back to the separation fence around Qalqilyah near the West Bank's boundary with Israel.

"We tell our neighbors: 'No matter how many settlements, walls or obstacles you build, it will not bring you security or peace," Abbas said.

The hearty welcome given Abbas at his first campaign rally in Jericho on Tuesday carried over on Wednesday to Qalqilyah and Tul Karm. Crowds repeatedly interrupted his speeches with cheers and people of all ages ran excitedly after his convoy.

Heavy security was draped around Abbas because of feared threats from militants opposed to peacemaking. However, local members of the al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed group in the mainstream Fatah faction that nominated Abbas for president, greeted Abbas and said they would vote for him.

Abu Salem, commander of the Brigades in Tul Karm, said gunmen would be receptive to Abbas's call for an end to armed violence, which has abated in most areas since Arafat died in November.

Abbas repeated his campaign theme that he would follow in Arafat's footsteps by vowing to seek a state in all of the West Bank and Gaza Strip with East Jerusalem as its capital and the "right of return" of refugees to what is now Israel.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abumazen; goodfence; israel; mahmoudabbas; pa; paelection; palestinians; peaceprocess; plo; securitybarrier; securityfence; separationfence; terrorism; terrorists
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To: broadsword

"A mosque is nothing but a terrorist barracks."

Where was it in India, the sikh tore one down brick by brick until the whole thing was demolished? I watched on TV and wished that I could be there to help them. An elderly Sikh man said 'we are asking them to return ten pecent of our holy sites out of the three thousand they took from us, and if they don't, we will tear them all down, one by one'.

If the call ever goes out in Australia for a demolition team, I'll be there, I can guarantee that, and it wouldn't surprise me if there were some mooselimbs sitting at home watching it on TV - cheering. I'm by no means apologising for mooselimbs, but I do believe there are many who are simply too afraid to say what they feel and think. Especially the younger generation, who, as all young folks do, want to live like the people around them. That's what the imams are really the most afraid of. They fear losing the next generation. (And they are losing many.)


41 posted on 12/29/2004 4:35:29 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks for Link.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
42 posted on 12/29/2004 4:54:23 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: anotherview

Boy, these guys really pick lousy fights.


43 posted on 12/29/2004 5:13:01 PM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody expects the secular inquisition!)
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To: anotherview
Well, there won't be a peace until Israel exists. They said it thousands of times, they prove it everyday, we know it...
So, why bother? Why do we fall into the same trap over and over again? Why do we care?
44 posted on 12/29/2004 5:22:15 PM PST by Neocon Shavuz
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To: anotherview; SJackson

The psychopathologically-hesperophobic Arabs who style themselves "palestinians" and their every last little-boy-buggaring, death-worshipping, false-fuherer-following islamofascist follower are a cancer in the body of Human Civilization and will need the radical surgery of total defeat and the chemotherapy of the application of the Ann Coulter Solution!

Or they will never never never never never never
never never never never never never never never never never never never never never never go away.

Bump


45 posted on 12/29/2004 5:31:42 PM PST by Brian Allen (For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord -- Luke 2:11)
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To: Neocon Shavuz
Well, there won't be a peace until Israel exists.

until = while?

46 posted on 12/29/2004 5:40:32 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Max Combined

only one?


47 posted on 12/29/2004 6:07:39 PM PST by printhead
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To: anotherview

Abbas went on, "Also, no peace can transpire even without the wall. Basically, no peace can transpire, period, even if Israel were destroyed and all Jews expelled or killed. Because I have a lot of scores to settle, I think all of us here do, right boys?" [crowd assents] "with some people who are here, some who are not, some who are in Israeli prisons, and let's not forget various heads of state from neighboring countries, as well as countries which are nowhere near here. Personally," Abbas continued, "I can't think of any conditions under which there can ever be peace. I just like killing people by the thousands."


48 posted on 12/29/2004 7:08:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("The odds are very much against inclusion, and non-inclusion is unlikely to be meaningful." -seamole)
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Palestinians 'made millions' selling cheap cement for barrier they bitterly oppose
Telegraph UK ^ | Jul 26, 2004 | Inigo Gilmore
Posted on 07/27/2004 11:00:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179577/posts


49 posted on 12/29/2004 7:10:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("The odds are very much against inclusion, and non-inclusion is unlikely to be meaningful." -seamole)
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To: anotherview
But reality belies Abbas. It is precisely the fence that has brought Israel the relative peace that it now enjoys.
50 posted on 12/29/2004 7:14:03 PM PST by denydenydeny
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To: anotherview
There will be no Peace until we kill every Jew and Christian, promise! So much for PLO Democracy.

Pray for W and Our Troops

51 posted on 12/29/2004 7:17:06 PM PST by bray (The First of 4 More Years!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

somebody erase this jerk.
erase the leadership until the whole lot of them are dead as a doorknob, or someone arises who actually wants to be Israel's partner for peace.

on second thought... just get rid of the jerk.
there will never be a palestinian state.

We are headed toward yet another arab war on Israel, a hot one... and we have not won democracy for Iraq as of yet. Israel will end up having to nuke whatever fledgling democracy we build in Iraq... to survive and our men will probably still be there... backing the Iraqis or held hostagge to them while Iraq and the other bastard islamists commit suicide by attacking Israel.

There can be no peace with Islam.
There can be no peace with arabia.
and there can be doubly no peace with arabic islamists.

and they are so stupid, they WILL commit suicide by attacking Israel... again.

they just don't get it.
and they wont then either.


52 posted on 12/29/2004 8:44:26 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 ("allahu akhbar..." the call to murder?)
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To: conservlib

There will be no peace in the Middle East until the barbaric Muslims, their leaders, their media, their intellectuals, and their governments all decide to coexist with others without forcing them to convert to Islam.



translation:
In other words there will be no peace until islam is COMPLETELY expunged from the human consciousness, on a planetary scale.


that's the fact of the matter.
religious freedom arguments notwithstanding.


53 posted on 12/29/2004 8:51:55 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 ("allahu akhbar..." the call to murder?)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
If you Palestinians really want peace, all you have to do is begin doing unto the Israeli's as you would have them do unto you.

If he was smart, Abbas would say: "We recognize Israel's right to exist. We are removing anti-Jewish staements from our textbooks, media, and cultural events. We will not tolerate violence of any kind. We will accept a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza, and part of Jerusalem. We will allow Jews to live along side us in settlements, just as Jewish Israel permits Arabs to live with them. We will not insist on destroying Israel by flooding her population with Arab Palestinians."

That is all they will ever get, they might as well accept it now. Or, if the impulse for revenge is simply too strong, just lie about all of the above. In either case, international money and, eventually, arms, will flow like a river. Then build the terrorist state and launch the suicidal jihad in a few years.

Abbas, like Arafat, is not very smart.

54 posted on 12/29/2004 9:06:34 PM PST by SupplySider
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To: anotherview
" it will not bring you security or peace," Abbas said.

"Knowing me, knowing you, there is nothing we can do," Sharon answered.

"I just wish for one thing," said Abbas

"Money, money, money," said Sharon.

"Arafat will be remembered," said Abbas

"As the f*cking dancing queen," said Sharon.

55 posted on 12/29/2004 9:29:42 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: anotherview
I honestly think these Pali morons think that others should enjoy their people getting killed daily.
56 posted on 12/29/2004 9:37:47 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (This space for rant)
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To: anotherview

Abbas is not interested in peace. He is yet another peace process pimp. The peace process enriches the Palestinian leadership, impoverishes the Palestinian people, and trashes Israel's security in every way that it can.


57 posted on 12/29/2004 9:45:23 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: anotherview

Mahmoud Abbas just stuck one foot in the grave. Words followed by deeds will seal his fate.


58 posted on 12/29/2004 9:57:51 PM PST by PGalt
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To: anotherview

Hey Abbas .. Arafat demanded they same BS and it got him no where fast


60 posted on 12/29/2004 10:03:38 PM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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