Megaquake & Tsunami predictable with Indian scientists’ planetary angular momentum theory

Indy Daily ^ | December 28, 2004

[geopyg]

But don't worry - EQs don't kill people (just watch out for the ground shaking).

[Conan the Librarian]

"When two or more than two planets, Sun and Moon are aligned more or less in line (0o or 180o) with the Earth, then the Earth would be caught in the middle of a huge gravity struggle between the Sun and the planets"

Except that compared to the Sun, the other planets have almost 0 gravity. It doesn't matter what part of their orbit a planet is in, compared to the Sun it is nothing.

As for the Moon, this last Full Moon (if the Moon's phase makes a difference to the Moon's gravity) the Moon was at Apogee, the farthest point from the earth the Moon can be. The Moon had the least amount of gravitational effect that it can have on the Earth in its orbit. The Earth on the other hand is approaching Perihelion, its closest approach to the Sun. If anything astronmical is going to do something to the earth with its gravity, its the Sun or the Moon. Maybe if it was perihelion and perigee then I would believe more that Tidal forces had something to do with this. But not now.

These guys are blowing smoke.

There has been a proven correlation between Hurricanes and earthquakes (See the Earthquake that hit Grand Caymans just this last Summer as a hurricane was hitting it).

[Noachian]

So, how does all this tectonic activity relate to global warming?

[GSlob]

Well, the Earth is about to collide with celestial axis...

[mikrofon]

On the 26th (Full Moon), Venus was in the vicinity of the Sun as seen from Earth (then again, it's always "close" to the Sun), but Jupiter was nowhere in line with the Moon/Sun.

If these "scientists" can't get the basic facts straight, it doesn't lend much credence to their so-called theory...

[Future Useless Eater]

>>I wonder if we can dig up a link to them making a specifc prediction BEFORE the earthquake happened.

Well, for what its worth; Yes. This student (looking for grant money) published exactly what is shown within post #1, on or before June 20, 2004 at:

http://www.aaspe.am/ASC_2004/Abstracts/Session5/523_N_Venkatanathan_India.doc

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He also ended his abstract with the following...

6.1 Symposium Session Title:
Session 5: Current Seismic Hazard Assessment, Early Warning, Earthquake Forecast and Prediction
6.2 Key Words: 
Planetary Forces, gravitational stress, and planetary configurations
6.3 Corresponding Author’s Information: 
Name:          Mr. N.Venkatanathan,
Affiliation:  Department of Applied Geology, 
	        University of Madras, Guindy Campus,
	        A.C.College Buildings, 
                    Chennai – 600 025, 
	        Tamil Nadu, India.
 Mailing Address: 5/69, East Mogappair, 
                             Chennai – 600 037, 
                             Tamil Nadu, India.
Telephone: 04456111625
Email Address: physics16972@yahoo.com
6.4 Type of presentation preferred:
Oral Presentation = O
6.5 Equipment requested for presentation:
Project for PC = PC
7. Student paper: 
Yes
8. Are you applying for a grant? 
Yes,
 Name: N.Venkatanathan

[sully777]

One success in a sea of earthquakes. Earthquakes occur every day somewhere on earth. How do they match up to the Venkatanathan earthquake prediction formula?

He may have been it right Dec 26th, but what of the Japanese earthquake and tsunami? Australian earthquake? Northridge? Alaska '64? New Madrid 1811?

The likelihood that this man and his formula can predict one earthquake with certainty is a statistical probability. The likelihood that this man and his formula can predict with certainty every new earthquake based on his formula is very different. This man's formula is not scientific truth. His formula is not even a theory based on scientific research 101.

IMO, the guy got lucky. Let's investigate every daily earthquake worldwide. See if his case holds up under intense scrutiny.

[RightWhale]

There has been a proven correlation between Hurricanes and earthquakes

Let's assume that everything has a reason why it is or is not. What would be the mechanisms linking hurricanes and earthquakes?

[Conan the Librarian]

I am not the expert here, I have a friend who is, so I am gonna do the best I can and if I when I can get more info I will.

The way I understand it has to do with the changing pressure of the water on top of fault lines. Hurricanes vaccumn up large chuncks of water, reducing the pressure on the fault, allowing slippage.

I will write my friend and ask for a better explanation. Please be patient and I will do what I can.

[RightWhale]

This is interesting. We are probably unaware of many of the dynamic effects of the atmosphere, probably just for lack of looking.

[Conan the Librarian]

This is what my friend said. Note the last sentence of his first paragraph about the lunar tides and phases. That is new to me, and, if he says it, it must be true. He is an expert on these things...check out www.methaz.com.


"Hurricanes can trigger earthquakes in two ways: the storm surge
(caused by reduced atmospheric pressure and, mainly, the action of the
wind piling up water) can cause an increase in the weight of water
pressing on a fault. A second mechanism is water from surge or rain
infiltrating the fault, lubricating it and making rupture more likely.
There have been a few studies showing this correlation, but it is a weak
one. The fault has to be pretty close to trigger anyway. The phase of
the moon and lunar tides are also weakly correlated.

A tsunami is caused by an earthquake (usually - can also be caused by
volcanic explosion, sediment slumping, or impact event). Since pressure
is already relieved on the fault, another big rupture is unlikely to be
caused by the resulting disruption of water weight distribution.
Triggering other faults is possible, but I don't know of any studies
actually showing such a correlation."

Well there you have it. I got it backwards and beg forgiveness. Check out his site, specially his SatBlog.

[RightWhale]

Has there been a lot of rain in California lately? That would put some extra weight on the network of faults if so.

[SunkenCiv]

This topic was posted 12/29/2004, thanks NYer.

John Gribbin ping.

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[Monkey Face]

Veddy intedesting!

So, animals aren’t the only ones who can predict quakes — planets want to get into the act!

‘Face

;o]

[SunkenCiv]

Animals are probably the best at stuff, just a language barrier.

“What’s that Lassie? Timmy’s in the well?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLVChRVfZ74

[Monkey Face]

I laughed really hard at that the first time I saw it...when I was a very short person and the Little Rascals were Saturday TV Fare along with Froggie the Gremlin.

Interesting costumes, though!

[SunkenCiv]

Heh, The Little Rascals...

[Monkey Face]

Yeah, I have some of their movies! Seriesly!