Posted on 12/28/2004 8:54:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory
Both Zogby Brothers are on the Charlie Rose show.
It keeps to its leftist tilt and New England type ignorencia intelectualism.
Hight points.
Convservatives in the USA are hijacked by the evenagelicals who are the equal to the taliban types.
Arafat was right to reject the peace plan.
Bush won just because of the war.
hit post too fast.
Check local listings because many PBS stations show this either at midnight or shortly after.
These were very good to see them.
It was basically saying that conservatives hold to their values because they are not enlightened to be liberal.
No need for knee jerk reaction folks, we need to keep in mind these are the enemy in 2006 and 2008. This is the mentality that must be exposed and stopped.
The Zoby who you don't see too much said Bush won because he asked for "your vote". This was a good point. Bush asked for our vote, kerry said he was entitled to it.
(will hitlary learn from this?)
This guy has lost all credibility . What little he had "left" coming into this election cycle .
Just for fun this was posted in one form or another, but this list is from his site:
Posted - 11/28/2004 : 00:58:42 | Posting Options
It pains me to no end that tax payers pay his salery. I am so glad to see him fade off. Not that anybody watches PBS.
Anyone who would claim evangelicals are "taliban types" is indeed an enemy of Christianity.
Evangelicals founded this great and free nation.
Evaneglicals wrote the US Constitution!
Evangelical Baptists were responsible for the 1st Amendment and the freedom of religion.
Zogby is an enemy of liberty and freedom. he is an enemy of the US Constitution.
Alternate PBS station rerunning this now with an oil exec talking.
The Zogbys have really bought the leftist agenda and commie speak hook line and sinker. I am not a regular viewer of Charlie Rose but he is even more wussy than larry king. A cardboard cutout would be a more insightful host.
Their comments were just plain alarming. Kind of makes you wonder what the US would have done if they could have seen hitler's early speeches and there was an internet during WWII to bypass the media.
The Zogbys were trying to equate the conservative movement with ignorance.
To be conservative is to be ignorant.
All conservatives are christians.
Christians are ignorant.
Highschool logic games.
Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth --Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998
If this CAIR man was of German descent in WWII and made a comparable statement about the 3rd reich becoming dominant he would be arrested and put in jail as an enemy. Probably hung or shot.
Why should he not be arrested now? We are at war with Muslim fanatics who are killing Americans for the same reason expressed by this man whop leads a dominant Muslim organization.
And liberals hold on to their values because they are not "enlightened" to be conservative--it's a matter of receiving information and making up one's mind based on life experience, education, etc. I guess this is just Zogby trying to put some fresh paint on an old idea and pretend he's a prognosticator.
So did he tell Charlie he called it for Bush all along?
They are using cold war commie tricks of using our system of individual rights against us. "You can't stop me from destroying you because you would be violating your own rules".
They were?
No but pollster brother said that Kerry lost more than Bush won. Kerry never defined himself. (I laught out loud at that one, kerry defined himself over 30 years. Kerry was a known quantity when the democrats were panting "eeeeeelectability.")
Thats why I said this was a know thy enemy alert. Rose is irrelevant to the debate. The Zogbys will be around in 2006 and 2008. They will be manipulating and positioning during 2005.
we know which group definitly did not make an appearance.
He got a lot of votes, but more voted for Bush. It's that simple. The Zogborg is just trying to make it sound so complex so people will think "Wow, we need people like him to figure this stuff out for us!"
I always thought the founders were deists--Christians. I had no idea they were Evangelicals. This is the first I've heard of that. To argue that the founders were NOT religous is lunacy, but I've never heard them called Evangelists.
Somewhere around here are figures that Bush increased the number voting for him by over 10 million. Kerry increased over Gore's percentages by around 12%. G.W. over his 2000 totals by over 20%. Evidently Zogby prefers to ignore the facts that state otherwise.
So rich that it is now the war that won Bush the election. Zogby was of opinion this was a liability.
If Evangelicals were akin to the Taliban than Zogby wouldn't have been allowed on TV to cite this propaganda.
One of the many blessings this past election was that Zogby's reputation was rightly discredited. he was shown as the partisan hack he genuinely is, manipulating polls at will in attempt to shape public opinion against G.W.
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