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Boy in a Santa Suit asked to leave school dance
The Hampton Union ^ | December 21, 2004 | Patrick Cronin

Posted on 12/23/2004 12:37:09 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker

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To: Stillwaters; Pride in the USA
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"It was a holiday party," said Muscara [the school principal]. "It was not a Christmas party. There is a separation of church and state. We have a lot of students that go to Hampton Academy Junior High that have different religions. We have to be sensitive to that."

It takes a special kind of stupid to ban Santa Claus for being a religious symbol.

41 posted on 12/23/2004 1:18:16 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Old Cracker wrote:
"So you wouldn't mind if someone showed up at a Christmas party wearing red robes and sporting a pentagram necklace?"

That is an extremely interesting question. I certainly hope that students are allowed to wear yarmulkes, hijabs and crosses if they are observant Jews, Muslims and Christians respectively.

So what would a teacher do if confronted by a student wearing a pentagram necklace?


42 posted on 12/23/2004 1:20:23 PM PST by edweena
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To: Gefreiter
what, exactly, does Santa Claus have to do with the birth of Jesus

Santa Claus is associated with one and only one holiday: Christmas. Christmas is the celebration of Christ's birth. It's not really that tough. I love this story though. It's hilarious. The more insane the left gets, the better.

43 posted on 12/23/2004 1:21:15 PM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Sure, why not, get the guy fired and sue the school as well.

If the ACLU is the only one doing it, then only the ACLU will win with the results.


44 posted on 12/23/2004 1:22:52 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: lonevoice

How does an INDIVIDUAL wearing anything constitute a problem with separation of church and state? It is not the state that forced him to wear the suit! The last time I checked it seems that this is an obvious slap at the kid's freedom of expression and freedom of religion. This principal should be sent to sensitivity training for a whole BLOODY YEAR to learn how to tolerate religious people (even pseudo religious people). Isn't that what the PC crowd wants us to do?


45 posted on 12/23/2004 1:25:22 PM PST by winner3000
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
I am not defending the crying, but he was intimidated by an adult who is in greater need of regular and repeated beatings than is this little boy. Wouldn't you agree?

Oh yeah! I could not agree more.

In fact, the more of this cr@p I hear, the more I lean toward violent retribution.

46 posted on 12/23/2004 1:32:37 PM PST by softengine (Once you acquiesce, its all downhill from there.)
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To: A CA Guy
If the ACLU is the only one doing it, then only the ACLU will win with the results.

So true. Its time to take back some of the ground we've given up (without a fight).

47 posted on 12/23/2004 1:39:03 PM PST by softengine (Once you acquiesce, its all downhill from there.)
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I cannot wait until the table breaks and we can stick the heads of principals like his on pikes.



The table is not going to break because when they do these things they do them to individuals NOT a crowd. What will YOU do when such blatant unreason, unfairness and just plain un american viciousness is turned upon YOU?

There was nothing stopping anyone from having this principal's head on a pike--outside of a lack of balls.


48 posted on 12/23/2004 1:39:40 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Sant Clause is a secular symbol, not a religious symbol.

Duh.

49 posted on 12/23/2004 1:40:36 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
So you wouldn't mind if someone showed up at a Christmas party wearing red robes and sporting a pentagram necklace?

Santa is a secular symbol for the Winter Holidays (just like Frosty the Snowman). Santa, as we know him, was pretty much created by Coke-a-cola (at least his visual representation). Red robes and a pentagram have no connection to the winter holiday (at least not in our culture).

Now, allow me to wax pedant:

The pentagram was used by the early Christians to symbolize Christ Transfigured and Catholic cardinals wear red robes.

50 posted on 12/23/2004 1:43:13 PM PST by Last Visible Dog
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
"It was a holiday party," said Muscara. "It was not a Christmas party. There is a separation of church and state.

What religion is Santa representing?

51 posted on 12/23/2004 1:43:15 PM PST by GretchenM (Was Santa Claus' inventor an entitlement-driven liberal?)
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To: Huck
Santa Claus is associated with one and only one holiday: Christmas. Christmas is the celebration of Christ's birth. It's not really that tough. I love this story though.

Santa Claus is an attempt to take religion out of the December 25th winter holiday.

52 posted on 12/23/2004 1:46:09 PM PST by Last Visible Dog
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To: softengine

Reminds me of FR.

Before FR, you didn't see any conservatives or mainstream people out protesting or gathering for anything much at all.

It was ground granted away by conservatives.
FR changed that and in the same way, people have to go to court to make the days of leftist and the ACLU a living hell on earth.

Once they don't have all the money to pay and go in to court, they will do lots less court stuff.

Would be a good result and FR would be a place to get that going IMO.


53 posted on 12/23/2004 1:47:49 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GretchenM
What religion is Santa representing?

The United Latter Day Brethren of the Universal and Everlasting Greed.

:-)

54 posted on 12/23/2004 1:49:11 PM PST by Last Visible Dog
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
But he was a very scary santa.


55 posted on 12/23/2004 1:49:53 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

This is the Hampton Public Junior High School!


56 posted on 12/23/2004 1:50:12 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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Mr. Muscara:

You have again proven an old saying of my Father: "There are more horses asses than there are horses!"

Wouldn't wait up for Santa on Christmas eve, if I were you!

57 posted on 12/23/2004 1:57:59 PM PST by FixitGuy
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

E-mailed; hope others will do the same


58 posted on 12/23/2004 2:04:44 PM PST by NRA1995 ("Yew jes' go and lay yore hand on a Pittsburgh Steelers fan & Ah think yer gonna fin'lly understand")
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To: edweena

Try not to notice.


59 posted on 12/23/2004 2:10:18 PM PST by Snapple
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

My first reaction was that maybe it was more a matter of not wearing a proper coat and tie than a matter of political correctness. But the principal's statement simply rules that out.

He should be fired for stupidity.


60 posted on 12/23/2004 2:12:04 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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