Science Reveals That Lesbian & Heterosexual Women Are More Violent Domestically Than Men.

December 17, 2004 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

A.)Lesbians:

1.) Women are four times more likely to be victims of domestic violence in a lesbian household than in a married household.(Claire Renzetti, Violent Betrayal)

2.) Marrried women in traditional families experience the lowest rate of violence compared with women in other types of relationships ("Violence Between Intimates," Bureau of Justice Statistics Selected Findings, November 1994, p.2)

3.)Among lesbians, "rates of verbal, physical, and sexual abuse were all significantly higher in their prior lesbian relationships than in their prior heterosexual relationships: 56.8% had been sexually victimized by a female, 45% had experienced physical aggression, and 64.5% experienced physical/emotional aggression." (1991 survey of 350 lesbians, 75% of whom had been in a previous relationship with a man) (Donald G. Dutton "Patriarchy and Wife Assault: The Ecological Fallacy Violence and Victims. Vol 9, Number 2., 1994. Page(s) 167-178.)

4.) A survey of 1,099 lesbians found that more than half reported that they had been abused by a female lover/partner. This includes verbal, emotional, psychological, and physical abuse. (Gwat Yong Lie and Sabrina Gentlewarrior, "Intimate Violence in Lebian Relationships: Dicussion of Survey Findings and Practice Implications, "Journal of Social Service Research 15 (1991): 41-59)

5.) Levels of abuse run higher among lesbians than they do homosexual men.

a.)44% of gay men reported having experienced violence in their relationships, 13% reported sexual violence and 83% reported emotional abuse.

b.)55% of lesbians reported physical violence in their relationships, 14% reported sexual abuse, and 84% reported emoytional abuse. (Study of 499 ethnically diverse homosexual, bisexual and transgendered teenagers and adults) (Susan C. Turrell "A Descriptive Analysis of same-Sex Relationship Violence for a Diverse Sample" Journal of Family Violence. Vol. 13, 2000. Page(s) 281-293)

B.)Heterosexual women:

1.)There is evidence from a variety of sources that women are more violent in a domestic setting while men wage war globally. The Revs. Sewell point out in their recent report that:

"We think it is important to note that there have been the same kind of studies done in many countries. there is cross-cultural verification that women are more violent than men in family settings. When behavior has cross-cultural verification it means that it is part of human nature rather than a result of cultural conditioning. Females are most often the perpetrators in spousal violence in most cultures that have been studied to date."

2.) Susan Steinmetz, Ph.D. a leading researcher in the filed of family violence, has done a cross-cultural comparison of marital abuse. Using a modified version of the Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS), she examined marital violence in small samples from six socities: Finland, United States, Canada, Puerto Rico, Belize, and Israel. Her results suggest that "...in each society the percentage of husbands who used violence was similiar to the percentage of violent wives." The major exception was Puerto Rico where men were more violent. She also found that: "Wives who used violence...tended to use greater amounts."(Steinmetz, S.K. A Cross Cultural Comparison of Marital Abuse, Journal of Sociology and Social Welfare, 8, 404-414, 1981)

3.) A 1988 survey of couples in Canada by Brinkerhoff and Lupri found the same pattern. They examined interspousal violence in a representative sample of 562 couples in Calgary, Canada. they used the CTS and found twice as much severe violence where females assaulted males, 11%, as male assaulting female, 5%.(Brinkerhoff and Lupri, Interspusal Violence. Canadian Journal of Sociology, 13, p. 407-434, 1988)

All of the above referenced studies can be found at http://www.dvmen.org/dv-38.htm

4.)In Bland and Orn's study, 73.4% of a sample of 616 women said they were the first to use physical violence. (Bland, R. and Orn, H. Family Violence and Psychiatric Disorder, Canadian Journal of Psychiatry, 31, p. 129-137, March, 1986)

The bibliography for B.) 1-4 can be found at http://www.dvmen.org/dv-183.htm

5.) The data from 3 studies: one in 1975, one in 1985, and one done in 1992.

Results:

The scientifc data for the three studies, expressed as a rate per 1,000 couples:

Minor violent acts:

1. Threw something 2. Pushed/Grabbed/Shoved 3. Slapped or spanked

Severe Violent Acts:

1. Kicked/bit/hit with fist 2. Hit, tried to hit with object 3. Threatened with gun or knife 4. Beat up 5. Used gun or knife

Minor Assaults by husband/ by wife 1975 98/77 1985 82/75 1992 92/94

Severe Assaults by husband/ by wife 1975 38/47 1985 30/43 1992 19/44

1975 study: (Behind Closed Doors: Violence In the American Family, Anchor Press, Garden City, NY)

1985 study: (Strauss and Gelles, Journal of Marriage and the Family, August 1986)

1992 study: (Murray A. Straus and Glenda Kaufman Kantor. 13th World Congress of Sociology, July 19, 1994)

Table was prepared using the data from ("Change in Spouse Assault Rates From 1975 to 1992: A Comparison of Three National Surveys In The United States" By Murray A. Straus and Glenda K. Kantor.)

Average results of three studies:

Husbands report they have been severely assaulted by wives: 32 per 1000.

Wives report they have been severely assaulted by Husband: 22 per 1000.

If one will take the time to peruse these studies, as well as the numerous studies at http://www.dvmen.org/dv-39.htm one will find:

1.) No evidence that a patriarchal society has any direct influence on family violence.

2.)There is no direct relationship between structural patriarchy and wife assault.

3.)Battering in lesbian couples is much more frequent than heterosexual battering and lesbian relationships are significantly more violent than gay relationships.

These and other studies show that, domestically, lesbian women are the most violent, heterosexual women 2nd most violent, homosexual men 3rd most violent, and heterosexual men are the least violent.

[netmilsmom]

>>cranky, asexual and anti-sexual mothers-in-law".<<

It may have taken me a while to get back to this thread but, my FRiend, you have made my day with this line....

All I want to know is, How do you know my MIL?????
Are we somehow related?

[tacticalogic]

If abortion is a form of domestic violence (and I don't know why it wouldn't be considered so) then women win this contest of who is the most violent of the sexes. It's no contest.

I don't know wheather they considered that or not, but I notice they do include "throwing things".

It has been my observation that generally, women do like to throw/break things when they're really mad. Some even go so far as to buy other people's old dishes at garage sales, and keep them on the shelf just to throw. It seems to be some kind of catharsis.

[Sipicaknobius]

These are facts that any Street cop in any City will tell you, if he is honest.

[Freebird Forever]

You never see a woman beat up by her boyfriend or husband!

Most guys just tough it out.

On the other hand ...

[OldEagle]

This only applies to lesbians and hetrosexuals right and not to regular women?

[ladyjane]

Who is that? Lisa Minelli??

[grapegush]

The survey consists of telephone interviews with a nationally representative sample of 8,000 U.S. women and 8,000 U.S. men about their experiences with intimate partner violence.

Not quite. Although this survey is advertised as "nationally representative," the study had actually very a shoddy sampling method, resulting in a very poor response rate of 56% (64% for women and only 52% for men). [Source: TJADEN, P. & THOENNES, N. (2000a) “Prevalence and Consequences of Male -to-Female and Female-to-Male Intimate Partner Violence as Measured by the National Violence Against Women Survey”, Violence Against Women, 6(2):142-161.]

Thus the survey's numbers only provide a rough estimate of prevelance of victimization, not a precise one.

[Freebird Forever]

Who is that? Lisa Minelli??

Yup

The man(?) pictured with Liza in the photo charged her with abuse not long ago.

Some broads, when strung out on pills, booze and / or hormones can get quite violent.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

No, this thread does not include bisexual women. I have found no stat's on them...as of yet.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

I agree with your statements. However, I view that a man hitting a woman is no different from a woman hitting a man. The act is the same. Violence is violence, period.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Corlorde, your Bureau of Justice stats include domestic and non-domestic violence. Don't mix domestic and non-domestic violence stats together. That gives a false picture. Separate the two. When you do, you will see that men are more violent to women non-domestically and women are more violent than men, domestically.

This thread is concerned with domestic violence, not non-domestic violence and domestic violence stats mixed together. Corlorde, your post is concerned with the totality of violence directed against women and men.

Yes, there are more acts of violence directed against women in non-domestic settings, but domestically speaking, my thread shows ample proof that women are far more violent than men in domestic settings.

In domestic settings, female on female violence is the highest followed by female on male violence, then male on male violence and finally male on female violence.

Corlordes stats are drawn from the Bureau of Justice stat's, which are drawn primarily from police records. Men are far less likely to report domestic abuse than women are. That is why you need studies where men can talk about how women are violent against them within the home and have confidentiality involved. Studies which I presented have confidentiality within them and still let the numbers be shown.

There is a stigma within our society applied to men that are hit by their wives, so many men are reluctant to discuss what happens to them within the home, sadly.

Men are taught not to hit back, and at the same time are far more likely to not call the police when hit within the home.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Misleading? No the title is NOT misleading. Women are more violent than men domestically. Men are more violent than women non-domestically. Studies show this.

The problem is, is that you present misleading statistics on here which are a mix of domestic and non-domestic violence. My thread stat's were concerned with domestic violence only.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Excellent post. Thanks!

[corlorde]

Fair enough.

~Corey