...ZOT in boots!
My user-name recognizes dialog like you post, which pretends name-calling is reasoned argument.
Regarding "Arabs" occupying the land for centuries, I doubt you'll find a single Arab that's lived there more than about 90 years. Or are you implying that common language to previous occupiers implies birthright to land and the right to exclude others from it?
"Bulldozing through refugee camps", "ethic cleansing", etc: now you're regurgitating historical fiction. I've seen images of bulldozers, and I've read uncontested assertions that the targets of the bulldozers were structures used by terrorists for storing weapons, planning attacks, conducting attacks, etc. Destroying those buildings doesn't sound "indiscriminate" to me. Sounds like a discriminating means of self-preservation. You seem to presume that the Israelis don't have a right to self-preservation.
why are these people living in such camps, could it be the ethnic cleansing the Israelis undertook back in the late '40s?
Or could it be that the rest of the Arab governments use them to keep their own people "under control".
Rebuttal answersI think that the 'crazy' in your user-name is showing through here, the choice of name should reflect one's persona - don't you think
Ony if ones opinion of people who are professed right wingers happens to be skewed to begin with.
Yes the Arabs of occupying the land, and have been doing for a few centuries. But that's not good enough for the Eretz Israel types, who would push them off (preferably killing them), whilst spitting in the face of the Christian leaders
The Jews have been there for centuries also. They bought the land they live on, and are legally entitled to it by virtue of a UN resolution establishing the State of Israel, which was supervised by your very own Winston Churchill when British territorial holdings in the Middle East were given self determination in the late 40's.
Eretz Israel types? Thats a mighty large label applied with a huge brush stroke. Do you normally assign a reactionary label to an entire group of people with a common belief? If so, thats a method of intolerance and hate on your part
Spitting in the face of Christians? I've never had a Jew spit in my face, and I've read the article you are referencing. I've been to Israel a few times, so if this were as common as you allege, it probably should have happened to me by now. The Jews responsible were prosecuted for doing it by the Israeli's, so obviously this isnt a widely held belief common to all Jews. If it were, my wife and children should be spitting in my face daily.
Yeah, and driving bulldozers through refugee camps is a really accurate means of targetting - come to think of it, why are these people living in such camps, could it be the ethnic cleansing the Israelis undertook back in the late '40s?
Maybe you should ask this question of Jordan. They have 10 refugee camps with 300,000 people in them. UNWRA has to look over them because the Jordanians have periodically murdered more Palestinians than the Israelis ever thought of. The incident you are speaking in (Jenin) resulted in 20 Palestinain deaths, and an equal number of Israeli deaths due to an ambush and massacre by the Palestinans.
Dont forget the fact that Jenin sent out an inordinate amount of suicide bombers to murder Israelis prior to military operations conducted there.
...ZOT in boots!
There is no such thing as a "Palestinian", just as Yasser Arafat was an Egyptian, not a "Palestinian."
Israel was a verifiable nation long before Rome annexed it, and Jews lived there since the Roman annexation.
"Yeah, and driving bulldozers through refugee camps is a really accurate means of targetting - come to think of it, why are these people living in such camps, could it be the ethnic cleansing the Israelis undertook back in the late '40s?"
So, blowing one's self up in a pizza place filled with Israeli teenage GIRLS is okay with you?
You mean like the way they killed the Canaanites and then "stole" their land? But you accept that, don't you? After all, all "good chr*stians" have to claim the ancient Canaanite-genociding Jews were their own spiritual forbears.
whilst spitting in the face of the Christian leaders.
You mean "chr*stian leaders" like Sabbah, who attacks the idea that the Bible means what it says but should be dissected according to modern higher criticism?
I wish I was over there to spit in his face personally.