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Apple Releases OSX.3.7 - update.
Apple Computer ^ | 12/14/2004

Posted on 12/16/2004 1:45:25 AM PST by Swordmaker

About Mac OS X Update

Mac OS X is the world’s most advanced operating system, blending the power and stability of UNIX with the legendary simplicity and ease-of-use of the Macintosh. Mac OS X version 10.3 “Panther” contains over 150 new features and provides significant enhancements to its modern, UNIX-based foundation.

What’s New in this Version

The 10.3.7 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for Mac OS X v10.3 “Panther” and is recommended for all users.

Key enhancements include:
- improved AFP support for saving documents with long file names
- improved OpenGL technology and updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers
- improved FireWire device compatibility
- updated Preview application
- improved compatibility for third party applications
- previous standalone security updates

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website:Apple Update to 10.3.7


TOPICS: Announcements; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; lowqualitycrap; mac; macintosh; macuser; osx; update
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To: Paridel

(you aren't really looking for enlightenment, you are looking to agitate some mac users.)

I really have no ill will toward Mac or Linux users.I do have a problem with some of their obnoxious elitist attitudes.And from what I've learned on this thread today I've come to the conclusion that Macs are just not for me.Not that they're crap or far superior to PCs just not useful or necessary to me for what I use a computer for.A BMW may be a better motorcycle than a Suzuki Bandit but if all you want to do is wheelies and smokey burn outs I'll take the Suzuki every time.


101 posted on 12/16/2004 3:52:24 PM PST by edchambers ("Pajamahadin Neocon footsoldier of the Haliburton Death squad Digital brown shirts")
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To: Glenn
Has that ever really worked for you?

I don't post advertising -- nor "articles" that purport to be news but are actually thinly-veiled marketing brochures.
102 posted on 12/16/2004 4:07:57 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Prince Charles
rm -rf /

What does the read mail really fast command do?

103 posted on 12/16/2004 4:10:27 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: edchambers

I was 'lucky' enough to be given a PC laptop (Dell Inspiron 7500) by a friend who no longer uses it. It has Windows 2000 installed and all I want to use it for is downloading Map data to a GPS. (Garmin has proprietary software which prevents there from being a Mac solution, other than Virtual PC)

I spent the better part of a day trying to get a driver installed and working on the PC so it would recognize the GPS.

Macs recognize almost every device connected to them virtually without any action on the users' part. On a rare occasion you may have to install a driver, but the process is painless. Wish I could say that about this PC


104 posted on 12/16/2004 4:15:02 PM PST by Vermonter
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To: Vermonter

The last time I had a problem with a driver I was trying to set up a multi boot system to run DOS6.2,Win98se, and Xp home.I had all three OSs up and running but my stupid onboard ethernet adapter would only recognize 1 of them.I do this kind of stuff for fun so I didn't shed any tears when it didn't work.Over the years I've had many PCs crash but never to the point that I had to go out and buy a new one.I just chalk it up to experiance and hope I learn something.


105 posted on 12/16/2004 4:33:58 PM PST by edchambers ("Pajamahadin Neocon footsoldier of the Haliburton Death squad Digital brown shirts")
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To: edchambers
Doom3 won't play well on VirtualPC, or won't play at all?

The OS X version comes out in two months.

106 posted on 12/16/2004 4:36:48 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Fatalis

(Doom3 won't play well on VirtualPC, or won't play at all?)

I don't know, somone else claims to have seen it up and running on a Mac I have not.I can tell you this though the demo version doesn't run all that great on my Dell this game eats system resources like nothing I've ever seen.I won't buy the full version until I have a Gig of RAM.


107 posted on 12/16/2004 4:44:38 PM PST by edchambers ("Pajamahadin Neocon footsoldier of the Haliburton Death squad Digital brown shirts")
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To: edchambers
From my experience on VirtualPC it will run any Windows software, though graphics heavy apps will be slower with the emulater. For games that will be a drag, but they do run.
108 posted on 12/16/2004 5:20:48 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: edchambers
I'll expound on a few:

#1 Why do they cost so much?

Depending on the system, configuration, etc., they can actually cost less for what you get. Immediately after a new Mac hardware release, a new top-end G5 will cost less than the top-performing Dell workstation. Buy just after these new releases. There are sites out there that track the best time to buy any Mac hardware.

#2 What are the specs? IE processor speed,Memory,Hard drive size?

What are you buying? From G4 in the laptops (pretty slow) to dual G5s in the desktops (dual about matches a dual mid-range Xeon right now). Hard drive and memory are about equal to PCs, except you can have up to 8GB in a G5. The memory performs better than a Intel, but not as good as an Opteron.

How upgradeable are they? Those computer in the monitor things look cool but can you increase the RAM,Hard drive size etc?

You can open an iMac in a few seconds to easily insert another memory chip or wireless card, or replace the hard drive. For the PowerMac G5s, pull down the side, slide out the airflow panel (which reminds me, I'll get to it in a sec), and do what you want: pop in memory, add a hard drive, etc.

The airflow panel is because the PowerMac has four separated thermal zones, liquid cooling, nine variable speed fans and 21 temperature sensors to make sure cooling is as efficient as possible while keeping the noise level whisper-quiet.

109 posted on 12/16/2004 5:27:49 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: edchambers
I really have no ill will toward Mac or Linux users. I do have a problem with some of their obnoxious elitist attitudes. And from what I've learned on this thread today I've come to the conclusion that Macs are just not for me.

I think I came on a little harsher than I meant too. I didn't really mean you wanted to irritate mac users so much as chide them a little, but in a friendly way. At least that is what is seemed like to me? That is, you weren't planning on having your mind changed by their responses. I agree with you on the above, I like the competition in the market and don't mind any of the systems, and I too get irritated with computer elitists. I use all three (but only use Windows and Linux at home, except for a couple old macs sitting around that I play with every 6 months or so). In fact I use many other more archaic operating systems, but that is a tale for another thread. ;-)

-paridel
110 posted on 12/16/2004 5:43:15 PM PST by Paridel
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To: antiRepublicrat

The airflow panel is because the PowerMac has four separated thermal zones, liquid cooling, nine variable speed fans and 21 temperature sensors to make sure cooling is as efficient as possible while keeping the noise level whisper-quiet.

That's the kind of info I'm interested in.It sounds pretty cool, literally.I'm not really in the market for a new computer right now I just wondered what the big deal was.It seems to me that people either love em or hate em but their devotion to them is almost religious.My PCs, all three of them, suit me fine for now.


111 posted on 12/16/2004 5:43:59 PM PST by edchambers ("Pajamahadin Neocon footsoldier of the Haliburton Death squad Digital brown shirts")
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To: Swordmaker

The Macintosh platform is too inflexible. Why can't people just buy a bunch of random parts and assemble them, like you can with a PC? Why does Apple charge such a large price premium for a hardware configuration you could get with a PC for much less? Where would the Macintosh be without technology from the PC? It would probably still have a 33Mhz bus speed. The ATI and nVidia graphics cards Apple brags about only exist because the PC market created them.

In addition, they routinely slander Intel microprocessors with bogus and rigged benchmarks like insecure little children. Someone should send Mr. Jobs a memo that we don't care about the microprocessors he obtains from Motorola and/or IBM.


112 posted on 12/16/2004 5:44:46 PM PST by ryanjb2
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To: Swordmaker

So Thats what the 24mg download was!


113 posted on 12/16/2004 5:45:42 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: Fatalis
Doom3 won't play well on VirtualPC, or won't play at all?

There really isn't much of a practical difference. If Doom3 ran on VirtualPC it would be about the same as looking at screenshots from a Doom3 review online. Whether or not it would crash VirtualPC is more of academic concern, not only would it not be playable the screen probably wouldn't even appear to change.

But since we are on the subject I was under the impression that VirtualPC either didn't implement 3d acceleration, or at least that the 3d acceleration was very basic. I haven't used it in a good 3 years so I'm not positive. But I would expect that it would refuse to load because of missing 3d hardware.

-paridel
114 posted on 12/16/2004 5:47:24 PM PST by Paridel
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To: Swordmaker
Al Gore sez: "Please fatten my bottom line update your software"
115 posted on 12/16/2004 5:54:28 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: ryanjb2
Where would the Macintosh be without technology from the PC? It would probably still have a 33Mhz bus speed.

And where would the user interface to Windows be without the competition from the mac?

Why can't people just buy a bunch of random parts and assemble them, like you can with a PC?

This has already been touched on in this thread, but I'll give it another shot. It is because you can buy a Mac and assorted hardware and it will just work. Many people don't want to have to buy random parts and assemble them. Their time is worth enough to them to spend a little more to get something that just works for them. The user interface is consistent across applications, and it is very intuitive.

I use a PC. In fact I just shoved a couple new parts in one of mine 10 minutes ago. But I like the fact that the mac is around to give people who aren't like me. I have a degree in computer engineering and enjoy messing around with computer hardware. Other people like being able to plug in a printer, open open their email, and print a picture of their grandkids without having to worry about it not working.

Is either viewpoint wrong? No, not at all. Same reason that some people buy Volvos and some buy Chevy pickups. I don't walk up to some family on the street with 2 kids and ask them why they didn't get an old Impala instead of a Minivan. If you think about it you are asking pretty much the same thing, and as you yourself said above, where would we be without competition? You are benefiting from Apple even if you use a PC, because it forces Microsoft to work harder.

-paridel
116 posted on 12/16/2004 5:54:55 PM PST by Paridel
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To: Paridel
And where would the user interface to Windows be without the competition from the mac?

Where would the Macintosh user interface be without Xerox?

117 posted on 12/16/2004 5:56:26 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Swordmaker

Macintosh: When you need training wheels.


118 posted on 12/16/2004 6:00:21 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Bush2000
I don't post advertising -- nor "articles" that purport to be news but are actually thinly-veiled marketing brochures.

That isn't an answer to my question.

119 posted on 12/16/2004 6:01:41 PM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: stockpirate

And to top it off, they are expensive as hell.

Well, prices are not that bad anymore. But, it used to be you could get a good Pc for a lot less than even a bottom line Mac.


120 posted on 12/16/2004 6:02:32 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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