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We need protection from the pedlars of religious hatred
Telegraph ^ | 12/14/04 | Iqbal Sacranie

Posted on 12/14/2004 8:30:01 AM PST by Pikamax

We need protection from the pedlars of religious hatred By Iqbal Sacranie (Filed: 14/12/2004)

In his column last Saturday, Charles Moore began with an almost unbelievably provocative question. "Was the prophet Mohammed a paedophile?" he asked.

The charge of paedophilia refers to Mohammed's marriage with Aisha. Yet a paedophile is one who is primarily aroused by children. For most of his married life, the Prophet (peace be upon him) had one wife, who was a widow with children of her own. After her death, he married others, most of whom were former widows themselves. Why would the Prophet have waited three years after his betrothal to Aisha – his only virgin bride – if not because he was waiting for her to attain puberty?

So the charge of paedophilia is nonsense; and, to be fair, the former editor of The Daily Telegraph acknowledged as much in his next paragraph. "People are perfectly entitled - rude and mistaken though they may be - to say that Mohammed was a paedophile," he wrote. Even so, the conjunction of the Prophet's name and this particular crime will have shocked Muslim readers.

As it happens, poetry in the Muslim world - and, in particular, that of the Urdu poet Allama Iqbal – abounds in complaints and reproaches made to God Almighty. Few poets, however, would dare to cast aspersions upon the name and memory of the blessed Prophet Mohammed. Witness the Persian couplet: Ba khuda deewana basho, Ba Muhammad hoshyar (Take liberty with God if you wish, but be careful with Mohammed).

European writers, though, have a history of taking liberties with the Prophet. As Minou Reeves, a former Iranian diplomat, observes in her book Mohammed in Europe: A Thousand Years of Western Myth-Making: "Over the course of no fewer than 13 centuries, a stubbornly biased and consistently negative outlook had persisted, permeating deep levels of European consciousness. In the works of an overwhelming majority of European writers, Mohammed was portrayed as a man of deep moral faults. Churchmen, historians, orientalists, biographers, philosophers, dramatists, poets and politicians alike had sought to attribute to Islam, and especially to Mohammed, fanatical and disreputable, even demonic characteristics."

It is no easy task to convey to a secular audience the immense love and esteem in which Muslims hold the Prophet. To us, he was the restorer of the worship of the One True God; teacher of an elegant and pristine monotheism; the friend of the orphans and the poor; a wise statesman, brave warrior, loving father, considerate husband; he was also the final of God's Prophets sent to mankind to remind us of the awesome Day of Judgment, when all will be called to account for the deeds we have committed during our lifetimes.

Anyway, back to Mr Moore. We seem to be revisiting the arguments that came to the fore during the Satanic Verses affair. Is freedom of expression without bounds? Muslims are not alone in saying "No" and calling for safeguards against vilification of dearly cherished beliefs. Earlier this year, the BBC accepted complaints from Catholics and withdrew its cartoon series Popetown. Why does society not show the same courtesy and sensitivity towards Muslims?

As you may have gathered, Mr Moore disapproves of the Government's proposal to outlaw incitement to religious hatred, seeing it as an "attempt to advance the legal privilege that Muslims claim for Islam". Quite what "privilege" Islam currently enjoys in Britain over and above other faiths, he does not say.

Yet the proposed legislation does not create a new offence as such. Such an offence already exists in relation to the Jewish and Sikh communities, by dint of their being regarded as mono-ethnic communities. It also exists in relation to all faith and belief communities in Northern Ireland. The Home Office proposal simply extends the current provisions to all faith communities in mainland Britain. If the present provisions in relation to Jews, Sikhs and Northern Ireland raise no concerns - and there is no real campaign to remove these provisions - why should they raise concerns if extended to other religions in Britain?

So, the incitement to religious hatred proposal is not a matter of advancing privileges for British Muslims. It's about establishing equality under the law.

The current loophole in our legislation has resulted in far Right groups such as the BNP modifying their racist rhetoric of yesteryear - no doubt out of fear of prosecution - into a more explicitly and aggressively anti-Muslim invective, this time without fear of breaking the law.

Stirring up hatred against people simply because of their religious beliefs or lack of them ought to be regarded as a social evil. The BNP's ongoing Islamophobia can and has led to criminal acts, abuse, discrimination, fear and disorder. At the moment, there are laws against those who are stirred into committing these offences, but not against those that do the stirring. In opposing the incitement to religious hatred provision, Charles Moore, Rowan Atkinson and the National Secular Society are unwittingly strengthening the hand of those, such as the BNP, who peddle religious hatred.

Quite a few red herrings have been floated this past week about free speech and the dangers of censorship. To be sure, proscribing legitimate free speech is not in the interest of any religion. The death of discussion, debate and robust criticism about a religion is the surest way of routing that religion itself. However, we can make a critical distinction between the substance and form of free speech. The law need not infringe on the substance but can assist to moderate the form, so that all people in this country, whatever their religion, may live in dignity, free from hatred and hostility.

As Martin Luther King observed: "The law might not change the hearts, but it can restrain the heartless." Modern Britain, like the rest of Europe, is now home to millions of Muslims. Some may have sought political refuge in our more democratic societies, some migrating for economic reasons.

Whatever their motives, they are now a part of the social fabric that constitutes these societies. Muslims in Britain do not seek to create an enclave or a parallel culture. They want to be respected as British. That is what they are. And the government that sees and treats them as such, by criminalising offences directed specifically at them, is a government that understands its obligations.

Iqbal Sacranie is secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cult; islam; mohammed; muslim; pedophile; religion; satanic; terrorist
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1 posted on 12/14/2004 8:30:01 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

What's a "pedlar"?


2 posted on 12/14/2004 8:31:18 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: Publius6961

A "molestar"?

Almost as bad as a "murderlar"?


3 posted on 12/14/2004 8:33:24 AM PST by KidGlock (W-1)
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To: Pikamax
So you're trying to stop religious hatred towards the religion of hatred, is that right?
4 posted on 12/14/2004 8:42:03 AM PST by buddyholly (We flushed the Johns!!!)
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To: Pikamax

This assumes Islam is a religion, instead of a crazed death cult.


5 posted on 12/14/2004 9:03:05 AM PST by tkathy (The Bluenecks need to get over it.)
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To: Pikamax
"Modern Britain, like the rest of Europe, is now home to millions of Muslims."

More's the pity.
6 posted on 12/14/2004 9:12:58 AM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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To: Pikamax
Islam is a cobbled together hodge podge of concepts borrowed from superstition and other religions. It is an aggressive cult which promotes violence. Its' founder would have greatly benefited from modern psychotropic medication.
The sooner the world is rid of this destructive cult, the better off and safer Christianity will be.
7 posted on 12/14/2004 9:22:01 AM PST by Bushforlife (I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pikamax
Mohammed was portrayed as a man of deep moral faults.

OK, given for the sake of argument that the charge of pedophilia is not applicable insofar as Mohammed is concerned: What about the maiming and killing of innocent people merely because they were not of the muslim faith? Is that not a deep moral fault?

Sheesh ...

8 posted on 12/14/2004 9:57:46 AM PST by Marauder (Show me a liberal and I'll show you a sick individual.)
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To: Pikamax
[ Why would the Prophet have waited three years after his betrothal to Aisha – his only virgin bride – if not because he was waiting for her to attain puberty? ]

BECAUSE... Mo-HAM-ad(BBQ sauce be upon him) was also a switch hitter...
Had male body slaves that performed "body stuff" for him..
Until one of his "wives" poisoned the creep..

9 posted on 12/14/2004 10:23:05 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Pikamax; All
Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:


10 posted on 12/14/2004 11:32:37 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: USF; jan in Colorado; broadsword; weenie; ariamne; texasbluebell

ping


11 posted on 12/14/2004 12:44:53 PM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: jan in Colorado

Thx Jan


12 posted on 12/14/2004 12:49:11 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Pikamax; hellinahandcart

This ought to be an interesting thread.


13 posted on 12/14/2004 12:50:58 PM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: hosepipe
For most of his married life, the Prophet (Buckets of boiling pig $hit be upon him) had one wife

So what? The bloodthirsty old degenerate was a late-bloomer pedophile. I $hit on the false prophet's memory and wipe my a$$ with the "holy" Koran.
14 posted on 12/14/2004 12:52:42 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: weenie

Good to see you.


15 posted on 12/14/2004 12:52:50 PM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: sauropod; BayouCoyote; Stopislamnow; Wolfhound777; weenie; MissAmericanPie; expatguy; ...

Yep. I am getting sick and tired of the religion of bloodthirsty peace demanding super-respect from VALID religions. Islam deserves nothing but scorn and ruthless opposition at every front.


16 posted on 12/14/2004 12:55:04 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: Pikamax
Why does society not show the same courtesy and sensitivity towards Muslims?

Well, they've go that "I'm a victim" thing down pretty good.

17 posted on 12/14/2004 12:57:04 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: jan in Colorado
Is freedom of expression without bounds?

If not for unlimited freedom to analyze and criticize an idea, a religion, a philosophy, or a theory, what is to prevent the perpetuation of a big frikken LIE, like, say, Islam?

The truth can withstand all criticism...a lie cannot stand the light.

19 posted on 12/14/2004 1:00:50 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: CaptRon
Why does society not show the same courtesy and sensitivity towards Muslims?

Hmmm... Let me see... Perhaps it's because you're a bunch of wild-a$$, out-of-control, primitive, misogynistic, bloodthirsty, lying, terrorist supporters, terrorists and sub-human maniacs who have never done anything for mankind but tear it down. Yes, that must be it.

Now go back to your Islamic gutter and leave the civilized world alone.
20 posted on 12/14/2004 1:02:16 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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