Posted on 12/08/2004 2:14:16 PM PST by TERMINATTOR
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- An attorney for the widow of a middle school teacher gunned down by a student argued before an appellate court Tuesday that the gun distributor was negligent in selling the cheap weapon and should be held liable.
Attorney Edna Caruso said federal officials told Valor Corp. for years that its .25-caliber Raven handgun was frequently used in crimes and that the company had a legal responsibility to make the weapons safer.
"Here we have a distributor that is known to distribute crime guns. It's been warned for years and years and years," Caruso said. "It says, 'I don't care because it's legal.' Well, just because something's legal doesn't mean it's not negligent.
Attorneys for Valor said the company cannot be considered negligent if someone uses the gun for a crime. They argue that teenager Nathaniel Brazill, who killed Barry Grunow (pictured, right) outside his Lake Worth Middle School classroom in May 2000, is to blame, along with family friend Elmore McCray, who stored the unlocked and loaded gun in a drawer, where Brazill found it.
Jurors in the November 2002 trial in the case largely spared Valor Corp. from blame. Grunow's attorneys asked for a $75 million judgment against the company, but jurors ordered the company to pay only $1.2 million to Pam Grunow and her two young children. A judge then threw out that verdict, and Pam Grunow appealed to the 4th District Court of Appeal.
Judge Mark E. Polen questioned whether Valor had a legal duty to protect society from the weapons it distributed. He said while he did not disagree "philosophically" with Grunow's claims, the issues might better be decided by the Legislature, not the courts.
"There was no evidence in this case that Valor was setting up little stands on street corners in dangerous neighborhoods. They were selling this gun to licensed dealers. Like any firearm, or any weapon, knife, billy club, whatever, Chinese stars, they can fall into the hands of criminals," Polen said. "Is that manufacturer or distributor liable to third-parties that were injured?"
But Judge Robert M. Gross quoted an earlier Florida Supreme Court ruling on another case: "Where a defendant's conduct creates a foreseeable zone of risk, the law generally will recognize a duty to either lessen the risk or see that sufficient precautions are taken to protect others from the harm the risk poses."
"The plaintiff argues that your client created a foreseeable zone of risk," Gross said to Valor attorney Tom Warner. "Then why isn't a duty created?"
Warner told the three-judge panel that the jury agreed the gun was not defective and not unreasonably dangerous. He said Valor can't be blamed for a criminal act that happened 12 years after the gun was sold.
Grunow's lawsuit against Valor was the first brought against the firearms industry to target the absence of a gun lock and the overall design of a cheap, easily concealable weapon known on the streets as a "Saturday Night Special." At the time, gun safety advocates said the verdict could force the industry to make safer guns.
Grunow, who made no comment on Tuesday, has said she wanted a large verdict to call attention to the dangerous weapons and their frequent use in crimes. Her attorneys are hoping the appeals court will reinstate more than the original $1.2 million verdict.
In the case, jurors said Grunow deserved $24 million but they also held Valor only 5 percent responsible in the shooting death, meaning she would have collected only a small fraction of the sum.
Jurors assigned half of the blame to McCray, and another 45 percent of the blame to the School Board for allowing Brazill to bring a weapon that he hid in his pocket onto campus. 
The School Board, McCray, and the pawn shop where he bought the gun settled with Grunow for a total of about $820,000.
Brazill (pictured, left), now 18, was sentenced to 28 years for killing his teacher. He said he pointed the handgun at Grunow to scare him and never intended to pull the trigger. He stole the gun from McCray after being sent home on the last day of school for throwing water balloons. He returned to campus to say goodbye to two girls and became angry when Grunow wouldn't let him inside his classroom.
The appeals court could take months to decide the case.
Next, they will be suing Jack Daniels and General motors for drunken driving deaths. After all, both companies KNOW that people will drink and drive.
Anyone know what the muzzle speed of the average .25 cal is?
I'm always amazed to hear people actually get killed with such a pip-squeek cal. I was under the impression that it would bounce off someones skull...and barely make it through a quality bombers leather jacket and all the way into some vital organs. Obviously I am seriously mistaken.
Don't go giving anybody any ideas!
I am in favor of an intelligence test. First, lay a couple of handguns in a room on a table, then let people in the room and see what they do. If either of them does anything grossly unsafe, grab them immediately and tattoo an "S" for "stupid" on their forehead and never let them own a gun.
Actually it should read: .25-.32 doesn't kill anyone right away, it may take them several weeks to die....but it will keep them off you in the near term.
The gun was not unsafe -- it operated exactly the way ANY gun is designed to operate.
She's upset that a manufacturor makes an inexpensive gun. They are serving a legimate market: people who need a firearm for self-protection, but are too poor to afford a $2,000 custom-tuned 1911. Low income, and the need for protection against crime, very frequently come together
"... Still, a single round of .40 in the upper torso is going to have a startling and surprising effect on any assorted vermin...."
As retired LEO & Range Master, we used to say the bigger the hole the faster you let the air out. Cheers.
What product liability? The gun worked perfectly.
A gun is as safe as the person behind that. This should have been summarily dismissed with the attorney getting his ass kicked legally for bringing this case.
If guns kill people where are mine hiding all the bodies ?
I love that movie especially the part about running through the street naked with green jello all over my body OH ! and rat burgers
He he he
I'm getting sick of all these lawsuits by the greedy and the demented -- they have turned into legal extortion.
Just once I'd like to see a judge sanction these shysters' butts.
Well, your question is a tad ambiguous but I'll give it a shot (no pun intended).
In any case you're correct, the energy in ft-lbs is pathetic. However from 'up close & personal' it's very effective to the back of the head. That's why wise-guys use a .22LR --- uh, that's what I hear anyway :-)
Note all the stats are the same for Remington UMC ammo. And there may be some 'hot loads' made in .25 auto, that I didn't check.
No, just made safer. NOW has a proposal for a male chastity belt that involves a bear trap. It's also a recruiting device--if a man gets caught in it, he'll be a natural candidate for next year's NOW board of directors.
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