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These creeps aren't going to help US get there, but when WE do....THEY are insisting on Conservation Parks.

Perhaps we should send the Sierra Club to Mars as an advanced scouting party....without space suits.

1 posted on 12/07/2004 1:13:36 PM PST by add925
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To: add925

Give them time. They will soon discover several species of Martian spotted owls and snail darters.


2 posted on 12/07/2004 1:14:59 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: add925

Europe has gone over the edge and isn't coming back.


3 posted on 12/07/2004 1:15:35 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: add925

Perfect example of the old adage "getting the cart before the horse."


4 posted on 12/07/2004 1:16:03 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: add925

Well, I guess you gotta park the mining machines somewhere.


6 posted on 12/07/2004 1:19:55 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: add925

Is the moon an international property?

What about Mars?

Who "owns" these planets?


7 posted on 12/07/2004 1:23:53 PM PST by fishtank
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To: add925

US Forest Service already manages a park on the moon. A park is fine, but not if it prohibits all development of resources.


10 posted on 12/07/2004 1:27:31 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: add925

This points out that in spite of the UN Treaty on Outer Space, or because of signing it, we have asserted sovereignty over everything in space, that is, the entire universe.


11 posted on 12/07/2004 1:29:19 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: add925
We'll have to make sure that some portion of the planet remains void of life. Sheesh.
12 posted on 12/07/2004 1:30:50 PM PST by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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To: add925

That's very discriminatory.

Don't the Martians have the right to their own planet?

This smacks of Manifest Destiny and is specism.

(Yeah, you can learn the left-lingo pretty fast.)


16 posted on 12/07/2004 1:33:13 PM PST by OpusatFR (Kill the secular holiday season. Boycott retail.)
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To: add925

Means nothing. Bubblegum for the mind.


17 posted on 12/07/2004 1:33:42 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: add925

Good place for a toxic waste dump
imo


22 posted on 12/07/2004 1:38:31 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: add925

Let me guess..

No firearms within a thousand feet of Mars.


24 posted on 12/07/2004 1:41:03 PM PST by Vinnie
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This is B.S. Mars was meant for strip mining. Has anyone ever seen "Total Recall"?


28 posted on 12/07/2004 1:45:48 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: add925
And, in these parks, there can be no praying, no Jews and no McDonalds. This is, after all, a Eurinal proposal.

I remember the negotiations for the Treaty of the Sea where the UN was to supervise the harvesting of the mineral wealth from the bottom of the sea. All the world's nations were to share in the proceeds. The headquarters were to be in another 3rd world location, Kingston, Jamaica, so UN thieves could steal. They got bickering over "fair" distribution of share even though the US and, maybe, one or two others actually had the ability to do the work. The US never signed the treaty and the mistresses, illegitimate children and girlfriends of 100s of UN diplomats and officials were unable to maximze their life styles.

31 posted on 12/07/2004 1:50:33 PM PST by Tacis (Kerry - You Can't Make A Silk Purse Out Of A Lazy, Lying, Elitist Scumbag!)
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To: add925

Repeat of old thread.


34 posted on 12/07/2004 1:56:26 PM PST by NonLinear ("If not instantaneous, then extrordinarily fast" - Galileo re. speed of light. circa 1600)
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To: add925
This strikes me as much ado about nothing.

Even though I am a lifelong space enthusiast, IMHO there will be no need for anything like national parks on Mars because there won't be any human presence larger than research stations. And even that's iffy.

Don't mean to sound pessimistic, but the fact is that Mars has virtually no magnetic field to protect people on the surface from deadly charged particles.

Mars' surface gravity is too light to hold onto a substantial atmosphere and keep it from blowing away with the solar wind, even after successful terraforming.

Humans in general, and politicians specifically, are too short-sighted to carry out any large-scale colonization of the Red Planet. Look what happened to NASA after they successfully demonstrated that manned missions to the Moon are possible - their budget was slashed and it became the timid, hand-wringing bureaucratic quagmire it is today.

Any manned missions to Mars will most likely be of the old "flags and footprints" variety, with no follow-up.

Like I said, I hate sounding pessimistic, but I'm the kind of guy whose general rule of thumb is "Hope for the best, expect the worst." I just hope that private space exploration and exploitation takes off, because government agencies and their Big Aerospace contractors are not about exploration and colonization, they are all about doling out government pork.

36 posted on 12/07/2004 3:40:47 PM PST by FierceDraka ("Megatons Make It Fun!")
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To: add925; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
39 posted on 12/07/2004 6:19:33 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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My guess they will attempt to stop sending humans to Mars..


40 posted on 12/07/2004 6:29:33 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: add925

I think those who settle Mars in the future have the right to determine what they will do with Mars, not some bedwetting liberals that will never set foot on Mars.


42 posted on 12/07/2004 7:05:31 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: add925

I think this is a great idea.

It needs to be codified via a UN resolution so that it "really" means something.

To be fair to all the people who aren't part of Greenpeace, there should be substantial areas of the gas giants opened up for homesteading.


47 posted on 12/09/2004 6:50:38 AM PST by UnChained
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