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Planetary Parks Proposed For Mars Conservation (BARF ALERT)
Technovelgy.com ^ | 12/7/04 | add925

Posted on 12/07/2004 1:13:36 PM PST by add925

A set of seven 'planetary parks' have been proposed for the conservation of the martian environment by two European scientists. Each of the parks contain representative features of the landscape on Mars...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: environment; landgrab; mars; moonbats
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To: RadioAstronomer
"Means nothing. Bubblegum for the mind."

Makes you wonder what these Euro "Scientists" get paid to do all day. Wonder if junkscience.com knows about these two characters.

21 posted on 12/07/2004 1:38:19 PM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: add925

Good place for a toxic waste dump
imo


22 posted on 12/07/2004 1:38:31 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: RightWhale

How do you "manage" a park on the moon?


23 posted on 12/07/2004 1:39:22 PM PST by pgyanke (The profit motive is the driving force of freedom.)
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To: add925

Let me guess..

No firearms within a thousand feet of Mars.


24 posted on 12/07/2004 1:41:03 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: pgyanke

Like managing most of our national resources. By writing a piece of regulation and putting it in a file someplace in DC.


25 posted on 12/07/2004 1:42:41 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: joesnuffy
"Good place for a toxic waste dump"

No, we should float toxic waste towards the sun....might create a cool explosion....wait...forgot about France's Solar Park.

26 posted on 12/07/2004 1:45:21 PM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: pgyanke

E. g., if you get to the moon, don't go within 1000 feet of Tranquillity Base, and especially don't touch anything or tread on one of Armstrong's footprints.


27 posted on 12/07/2004 1:45:30 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: add925

This is B.S. Mars was meant for strip mining. Has anyone ever seen "Total Recall"?


28 posted on 12/07/2004 1:45:48 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: frog_jerk_2004

So was the moon. The idea of mining the He3 means strip mining the entire surface. Very popular idea.


29 posted on 12/07/2004 1:47:10 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: frog_jerk_2004
Total Recall....cool....

Shhhh, the Euros haven't seen this Arnold flick yet. Don't give them any ideas. I could see them mining Mars for ingredients to use in their toilet paper.

30 posted on 12/07/2004 1:49:49 PM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: add925
And, in these parks, there can be no praying, no Jews and no McDonalds. This is, after all, a Eurinal proposal.

I remember the negotiations for the Treaty of the Sea where the UN was to supervise the harvesting of the mineral wealth from the bottom of the sea. All the world's nations were to share in the proceeds. The headquarters were to be in another 3rd world location, Kingston, Jamaica, so UN thieves could steal. They got bickering over "fair" distribution of share even though the US and, maybe, one or two others actually had the ability to do the work. The US never signed the treaty and the mistresses, illegitimate children and girlfriends of 100s of UN diplomats and officials were unable to maximze their life styles.

31 posted on 12/07/2004 1:50:33 PM PST by Tacis (Kerry - You Can't Make A Silk Purse Out Of A Lazy, Lying, Elitist Scumbag!)
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To: Tacis
UN Vultures....Perform no work, enjoy all the benefits...Great scam as long as you can get away with it.

Time to cut the cord......

32 posted on 12/07/2004 1:54:29 PM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: fishtank
Who "owns" these planets?

Under the terms of the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, no signatory can claim territory in space, beyond that necessary for the support of bases.

We need to withdraw from the 1967 Outer Space Treaty and the 1979 Moon Treaty, which I believe had some of the same restrictions.

33 posted on 12/07/2004 1:55:44 PM PST by TigerTale ("An America that is a force for democratic change is a very dangerous foe indeed."--Victor D. Hansen)
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To: add925

Repeat of old thread.


34 posted on 12/07/2004 1:56:26 PM PST by NonLinear ("If not instantaneous, then extrordinarily fast" - Galileo re. speed of light. circa 1600)
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To: farmfriend


35 posted on 12/07/2004 2:00:50 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: add925
This strikes me as much ado about nothing.

Even though I am a lifelong space enthusiast, IMHO there will be no need for anything like national parks on Mars because there won't be any human presence larger than research stations. And even that's iffy.

Don't mean to sound pessimistic, but the fact is that Mars has virtually no magnetic field to protect people on the surface from deadly charged particles.

Mars' surface gravity is too light to hold onto a substantial atmosphere and keep it from blowing away with the solar wind, even after successful terraforming.

Humans in general, and politicians specifically, are too short-sighted to carry out any large-scale colonization of the Red Planet. Look what happened to NASA after they successfully demonstrated that manned missions to the Moon are possible - their budget was slashed and it became the timid, hand-wringing bureaucratic quagmire it is today.

Any manned missions to Mars will most likely be of the old "flags and footprints" variety, with no follow-up.

Like I said, I hate sounding pessimistic, but I'm the kind of guy whose general rule of thumb is "Hope for the best, expect the worst." I just hope that private space exploration and exploitation takes off, because government agencies and their Big Aerospace contractors are not about exploration and colonization, they are all about doling out government pork.

36 posted on 12/07/2004 3:40:47 PM PST by FierceDraka ("Megatons Make It Fun!")
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To: fishtank
Who "owns" these planets?

Possession is 9/10 of the law. Whoever gets there first and has the strength to hold them will own them.

Diplomats can bray and gab about treaties to their blue-blooded hearts' content. But once some cowboy like Burt Rutan sets up shop on the Moon, has the resources to defend his claim, and is making a profit, all the space treaties in this world will have as much worth as the paper they're printed on.

37 posted on 12/07/2004 3:53:09 PM PST by FierceDraka ("Megatons Make It Fun!")
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To: Vinnie
No firearms within a thousand feet of Mars.

Hah! That only applies to chemically-powered slug-throwers. Say hello to my little friend!


38 posted on 12/07/2004 3:59:41 PM PST by FierceDraka ("Megatons Make It Fun!")
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To: add925; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
39 posted on 12/07/2004 6:19:33 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; sionnsar; anymouse; RadioAstronomer; NonZeroSum; jimkress; ...
My guess they will attempt to stop sending humans to Mars..


40 posted on 12/07/2004 6:29:33 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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