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ABC Blames Fear of Conservatives for Blocking Pro-Inclusion Ad
MRC ^ | Dec 3, 2004 | Brent Baker

Posted on 12/07/2004 9:02:29 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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1 posted on 12/07/2004 9:02:29 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It's not a pro-UCC ad. It's an ANTI-NON-UCC ad.
2 posted on 12/07/2004 9:05:07 AM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"the power of the right in America to chill and deter free speech."

It seems professors have become incredibly stupid over the years.

3 posted on 12/07/2004 9:05:14 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

"United Church of Christ"

Ah yes.......good to see you're not bearing false witness with these commercials.

Oh wait.......you are........never mind.......


4 posted on 12/07/2004 9:06:05 AM PST by TitansAFC (Al Gonzales for SCOTUS? Let's just nominate Arlen Specter.)
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"Why do the major networks refuse to run an ad by a church that welcomes gays and lesbians?"

Because the basis is a demonstrable lie, perhaps?

5 posted on 12/07/2004 9:06:28 AM PST by jammer
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A professor then ominously warned about "the power of the right in America to chill and deter free speech."

What utter bulls**t. I've been on the receiving end of far more liberals chilling free speech than anything else... The Left has been, for the past several decades, the number one perptrator of civil rights violations in this nation, and no "professor" can make me believe otherwise.

6 posted on 12/07/2004 9:06:36 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

The UCC would probably allow anyone to enter their hallowed halls except those churchgoing people with whom they disagree. Rather than showing their own church in a loving light they chose to show other churches in a negative light. Ah, the true sense of brotherhood. Of course with the emphasis on hood rather than brother.


7 posted on 12/07/2004 9:07:36 AM PST by Pharlap
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"The left-wing United Church of Christ (UCC) put out a press release complaining about how their ad denigrating other churches, which showed bouncers, in front of a church, turning away a gay couple, a Hispanic man, a black woman and a guy in a wheelchair,"

I can't imagine any true church, left-wing or not, turning away any of these people, especially based on race or handicap. That is a blatant straw man.As for the gay man, he's welcome but he'll probably feel uncomfortable after awhile, seeing how homosexuality is viewed as a sin and all...The church is nothing withhout the Bible. How then can it be viewed as bigoted if the Bible is taught in church. Arrrgh.


8 posted on 12/07/2004 9:10:08 AM PST by Ohiomedina (Art is long, life short; judgment difficult, opportunity transient.)
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To: atomicpossum
It's not a pro-UCC ad. It's an ANTI-NON-UCC ad.

Ditto.

9 posted on 12/07/2004 9:10:26 AM PST by EllaMinnow (For the first time in over 20 years, I'm not represented by Bob Graham! Go MEL!! Viva Bush!)
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This whole scenario sounds scripted from the DNC, to create a false controversy and further divide the red and blue camps.

In my church, I always duck in the back door to avoid the bouncers out front trying to keep out gays, handicapped, blacks and hispanics. (/sarcasm)

10 posted on 12/07/2004 9:11:52 AM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie.)
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To: jammer

I saw the ad the other night and wondered what the message was as all churches are open to all. I figured UCC was saying practicing witches/child molesters and gays were the targeted audience.


11 posted on 12/07/2004 9:13:19 AM PST by RicocheT
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The only thing controversial about this ad is the fact that UCC is explicitly slamming Christians who have different views on sin.

The issue should be why the UCC needs demean other Christian bodies. Nobody cares that the UCC is okay with sexual sins - that's been their stance for decades.
12 posted on 12/07/2004 9:15:53 AM PST by Gingersnap
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Yep. This was very much planned. It's not going to work. It's not going to work because the people themselves do not want to go to a gay church. That's just the way it is. Gay people are incredibly annoying. Every last one of them.


13 posted on 12/07/2004 9:17:13 AM PST by bluebunny
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To: RicocheT

The UUC also sponsors Christ Church Hospital in Oak Lawn IL. This is where "live birth abortions" are practiced (see Federal Register for testimony on Live Birth Children's Protection Act). Because of the Gay Marriage ruling in Massachusetts the Left is going to coerce the government into making "Good Church, Bad Church" destinctions.


14 posted on 12/07/2004 9:18:13 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Net-net, the ad should not have been banned. By banning such a passive ad that simply states that a church is open (even though I think it is deceptive as the church is more than just open), is a travesty of censorship by the networks.


15 posted on 12/07/2004 9:30:01 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: Ohiomedina

I agree with your points, however you forget that the bible contains hate speech and the left's real goal is to ban the bible. Effectively killing christianity.


16 posted on 12/07/2004 9:36:22 AM PST by CSM
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Why doesn't this arrogant and leftist United Church of Christ get over itself? My church is one of the most conservative in the nation and NO ONE IS EVER TURNED AWAY. Indeed, it is against the church's scriptural teachings to do so. Nor do I know of any other church doing such. This is typical of liberals. They accuse the right of thinking we have a "monopoly on morals." Yet they themselves think they have a monopoly on compassion and tolerance. Time to get over yourselves and to break free of the intellectually-stunted world of stereotypes which tells you more conservative Christian denominations turn away people they don't approve of from their congregations. That world exists only in your warped, narrow little minds.


17 posted on 12/07/2004 9:45:06 AM PST by MikeA
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This ad should not have been banned, even though the message is demonic. Lucifer doesn't hang around in pool halls, bars and strip joints. He doesn't bother with the riff-raff. He goes to the top, to leadership, and corrupts them. What better way to destroy the church than to corrupt it's leadership and it's message? Satan does not deny God, he corrupts God's message. Satan is not a being with horns and a pitchfork. He wears a suit or robes, stands in front of a congregation and denies his own existance. He is the king of lies.

Show the ad. For those in the UCC church that have ears to hear it may wake them up to the ugly reality of their leadership's message and teaching.


18 posted on 12/07/2004 9:46:29 AM PST by Freakazoid
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It is NOT simply stating that they are open to all. It is simply stating that all other churches are open only to white families! When was the last time you were in a church that had NO Blacks or Hispanics because "they were turned away at the door by a bouncer"????

Maybe we should all attend a UCC service in our wicken apparel, or our terrorist burkas and suicide bomber belts, or wear hunting camos and carry a sign claiming homosexuals deviants!

If the UCC is open to everyone...


19 posted on 12/07/2004 9:51:24 AM PST by knick knack
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I'm trying to figure out how the "Christian Right" is the villain in this story when it was the three networks that denied the free speech.

I know the ad is a bunch of lies, but no one influenced the networks because the ads never ran.

This "controversy" seems all too convenient.


20 posted on 12/07/2004 9:57:37 AM PST by almcbean
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