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The Greeks Won't Sue Oliver Stone: They Don't Know Where to Start
The Telegraph ^ | December 6, 2004 | Jim White

Posted on 12/05/2004 7:24:05 PM PST by quidnunc

Alexander the Great, so we are told, held sway over most of the known world by the time he was 30. Which is more than can be said of Oliver Stone's movie version. Far from winning hearts and conquering minds, the reaction in Greece when the picture was first released was one of spume-flecked fury. The hissing noise, emanating from the country where they have long laid claim to the old Macedonian imperialist, was that of steam emerging from starched collars. Before they had even seen the picture, 25 of Athens's top lawyers became exercised about rumours that the greatest of all adopted Greek heroes was depicted as not entirely heterosexual.

Colin Farrell's portrayal of the man whose very name evokes all that is mighty about Hellenic manhood, so they had heard, was less swaggering champion than a sort of Balkan Graham Norton, mincing his way across the globe on an exhaustive search for a nice young man to share interior design tips and settle down to some fireside embroidery. It was, the Athenian briefs insisted, a grotesque libel. Something had to be done. And, in order to seek recompense on behalf of an entire nation so grievously damaged by the implication, they were prepared to subject Stone to the full majesty of the oldest legal system in the world.

"We would have reacted the same way if the issue didn't involve homosexuality," Yannis Varnakos, spokesman for the 25 lawyers, claimed. "We just don't want a distortion of historical facts."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alexanderthegreat; greece; oliverstone
A Greek and an Italian were arguing about who had contributed more to civilization, the ancient Greeks or the Roman Empire.

The Greek says "We discovered the joy of sex,"

"Yes," says the Italian, "but we introduced it to women."

1 posted on 12/05/2004 7:24:06 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
Colin Farrell's portrayal of the man whose very name evokes all that is mighty about Hellenic manhood, so they had heard, was less swaggering champion than a sort of Balkan Graham Norton, mincing his way across the globe on an exhaustive search for a nice young man to share interior design tips and settle down to some fireside embroidery

LOL! I haven't seen Alexander and wasn't planning to see it, but each item I read about it makes it seem ever more awful. May have to see it just for the laughs and schadenfreude over the end of Stone's career.

2 posted on 12/05/2004 7:26:48 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: quidnunc
And San Francisco introduced it to children :-)
3 posted on 12/05/2004 7:31:10 PM PST by drt1
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To: quidnunc
Far from winning hearts and conquering minds

Oh geez, I thought the Kerry election stuff was over.  Oops wrong thread.

4 posted on 12/05/2004 7:31:29 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Rummyfan
More from the article:

What a shame that the lawyers backed down. Imagine if they had gone through with litigation and actually won. Stone would have been obliged publicly to admit that it was unlikely Alexander wore blond highlights and had a habit, every time he marched into a new city, of turning to his generals and saying: "Bejaysus."

LOL!!!

5 posted on 12/05/2004 7:31:30 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: quidnunc

You made my day. Thanks. :)


6 posted on 12/05/2004 7:50:23 PM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: quidnunc

bump


7 posted on 12/05/2004 7:51:35 PM PST by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: quidnunc

I didn't know it was not common knowledge. I had always heard that the greatest warrior in history was homosexual.

I am not condoning this movie, I haven't even seen it.

If Stone made a big deal about it, that was just a waste of film.


8 posted on 12/05/2004 7:52:29 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (>)
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To: quidnunc

They didn't call it Greek Love for nothing.

Of course, San Francisco wasn't around at the time.


9 posted on 12/05/2004 7:58:52 PM PST by plangent
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In retrospect, maybe this movie was good revenge for the crappy 2004 [anti-american] summer olympics...


10 posted on 12/05/2004 7:59:46 PM PST by Citizen James (Notorious G.O.P.)
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To: quidnunc
I saw it. It's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Singularly bad. Beyond bad. And torturously long.

But then, somewhere about two and a half hours in, the the overwhelming idiocy of the thing starts to provoke uncontrollable laughter. It's sooooo camp, so bad it's good, so bad it's - dare I say it? - GREAT!

11 posted on 12/05/2004 8:01:48 PM PST by dagogo redux (I never met a Dem yet who didn't understand a slap in the face, or a slug from a 45)
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To: plangent
Of course, San Francisco wasn't around at the time.

Native Americans living in the SF area did have homosexuals living openly in their communities, married and living together. In fact, one of the homosexual pair would wear a skirt, the other would go hunting. Because women weren't allowed to hunt, only men could enter into these homosexual marriages.

12 posted on 12/05/2004 8:05:32 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Citizen James

I was at the olympics, it was not anti-american. It was fantastic, the events were well run and the city had well trained and organized volunteers ready to answer questions. The only disappointed people were the reporters who were left wandering around Athens with no bad news to report.

I think these lawyers are just backing off to avoid giving this box office bomb more PR. Apparently (per drudge) its revenues have dropped some 60% in its second week of release. This makes about 30 million.

The only question now is where the "EEEEEureropeans" will pay their euros to see a Oliver Stone's homosexual film. These were the saps who saved king arthur and troy after they died at the US box office.


14 posted on 12/05/2004 9:22:21 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Maybe you're right, but I recall a lot of booing and thumbs down and things of that nature... maybe the media just magnified that stuff...


15 posted on 12/05/2004 9:26:38 PM PST by Citizen James (Notorious G.O.P.)
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To: quidnunc
Alexander the Great, so we are told, held sway over most of the known world by the time he was 30

Bull-crap --> Alex conquered a large chunk of what the Greeks thought was the civilised world -- they had heard of Indian civilisations, but not the Chinese, so that can be forgiven -- and WEstern Europe was not one of them.

He never did manage to move into India -- the news of the gigantic Ganges based Magadhan army scared off his troops who rebelled.
16 posted on 12/05/2004 10:35:12 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: infidel44; UCANSEE2
Greatest Warrior or general? For greatest General you have quite a few -- Tiglath-Pileser the IIIrd of Assyria, Thotmose the IIIrd and Ramsesse the IInd of Egypt, Ashurbanipal, Sargon, Sennacherbhi of Assyria, David of Israel, Cyrus the GReat and Darius the Mede of Persia, Nebuchadnezzar of Babylonia, Chandragupta IIng of India, Q'in of China, Gaius Julius Caesar, Pompey, Marius, Scipio Africanus, Trajan, Chandragupta Maurya (different guy from the above), Genghis Khan, Charlemagne, Cortez, Henry Vth, Attila the Hun, etc.


Greatest warrior -- I'd say its a cleaner toss-up between Genghis Khan and Tiglath-Pileser IIIrd
17 posted on 12/05/2004 10:41:33 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos

Oliver Stone is obsessed.
His next movie is about Reagan and Thatcher having an affair.
He is one sicko!!!!!!!!!!!!


18 posted on 12/05/2004 11:10:11 PM PST by MaryJaneNC
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To: infidel44

Don't you mean Jenjis Khan?


19 posted on 12/06/2004 5:30:07 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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