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WI Poll: Should police in Wisconsin be able to ticket just for seatbelt violations?
WEAU TV 13 ^ | 11/30/2004 | WEAU TV 13

Posted on 11/30/2004 5:20:33 PM PST by quietolong

Should police in Wisconsin be able to ticket just for seatbelt violations?

NO
yes

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Wisconsin; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: nannygoverment; nannystate; seatbeltlaw; unconstitutionallaw
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To: quietolong
What they don’t tell you. And is suppressed big time. Is all the deaths and injures seatbelts cause!

Sources, please?

41 posted on 11/30/2004 6:31:06 PM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
"Cars weren't invented when the Constitution was written."

They had horses and you would have attempted to tie the riders on. They in turn would have tarred and feathered you and sent you packin' on a rail.

42 posted on 11/30/2004 6:33:51 PM PST by spunkets
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To: LauraleeBraswell
I could care less if you want to do handstands on the handlebars of your Harley at 100mph without wearing a helmet, just so long as I don't gave to pay for your next 50 years of nursing home care if and when you break your head (and neck).

But if I might have to pay for your errors in judgement, then by all means, I think that behavior should be discouraged.

43 posted on 11/30/2004 6:36:31 PM PST by Sooth2222
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To: quietolong
Should police in Wisconsin be able to ticket just for seatbelt violations?

No. What good does it do to issue a citation? Why inconvenience the driver by demanding a court appearance when the same thing can be accomplished by just impounding the vehicle?

44 posted on 11/30/2004 6:42:04 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: tahiti
So you don't think the government has a right to tell you that you can't stick a heroin needle in your arm?
45 posted on 11/30/2004 6:48:06 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (See and decide for yourself)
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To: Scenic Sounds
"the same thing can be accomplished by just impounding the vehicle?"

WHy not just shoot him in the head, send the bill to his mother and give the vehicle to the local nannies.

46 posted on 11/30/2004 6:50:12 PM PST by spunkets
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To: quietolong

Absolutely not! Whether or not I wear seatbelts (and I absolutely religiously DO)is NOBODY'S business but mine. All it amounts to is a tax on automobiles. If these civil nannies were at all concerned, they'd get motorcycles the hell off the road for the simple reasons that there are no seatbelts, no air bags, no side impact standards, etc, etc, that the auto drivers are being drowned in.

I don't have anything against motorcycles whatsoever, but I resent them being totally immune to safety (not wearing seatbelts), air (no emission controls whatever), and noise standards (incredible amounts of noise from cycles that no car can duplicate) that the auto drivers are faced with.

Leave the motorcyclists and auto drivers ALONE. It's a TAX that the local and state governments are too cowardly to pass thru the voting booth.


47 posted on 11/30/2004 6:52:52 PM PST by laweeks (I)
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To: quietolong

Yes, if the elected reps pass such a law. Remember what it says in every state driver's manual: "driving is a privilege, not a right." If we start confusing inconvenient restrictions with Constitutional liberties, then we make the same error the Left makes when they confuse the Second Ammendment with the driving privilege, or some other act of State or Federal government.


48 posted on 11/30/2004 6:53:01 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: spunkets
WHy not just shoot him in the head, send the bill to his mother and give the vehicle to the local nannies.

That seems a bit extreme to me, spunkets, but perhaps I'm missing something. Why do you think that the mother should have to pay any bill? What did she do wrong?

49 posted on 11/30/2004 6:55:38 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Ginifer

NO, I came from Missouri to florida, and they have the same law, you have to get a ticket for some other violation, before they can ticket you for a seat belt. Too much Government. Pretty soon there going to tell u when u can go to the bathroom.


50 posted on 11/30/2004 6:58:22 PM PST by forbushalltheway
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To: Scenic Sounds
"Why do you think that the mother should have to pay any bill? What did she do wrong?

She raised a strong, independant, and capable Freeman, instead of a the complacent ditz serf socialist society demands.

51 posted on 11/30/2004 6:58:26 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
She raised a strong, independant, and capable Freeman, instead of a the complacent ditz serf socialist society demands.

Thanks! That's a point I hadn't even considered.

And thanks for buckling up!! ;-)

52 posted on 11/30/2004 7:02:47 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: quietolong

In King Georges' country (NY) ANY moving violation is probable cause (another Mario legacy).


53 posted on 11/30/2004 7:52:12 PM PST by printhead
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To: Ginifer

In Florida, you get ticketed if you aren't weaing white shoes and if your pants aren't pulled up to just below your nipples (if you're a guy, that is).


54 posted on 11/30/2004 7:59:41 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: quietolong

Why should Wisconsin be different than other areas of the country?


55 posted on 11/30/2004 8:00:33 PM PST by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: metalmanx2j
"The coppers can do it here south of the WI border in IL. It sucks. I wear my belt all the time anyway, but ticketing someone who is stupid enough not to wear it is just plain annoying."

Not to mention un-American. What blows my mind is the number of Republican politicians who sign on to this BS. Patrick Henry would refuse to wear a seat belt, for the mere fact that some do-good politician mandated it.

Federal Government: Leave me alone. Mind your own business.

56 posted on 11/30/2004 8:12:06 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: quietolong

A few days after being a pall bearer at my best friend's funeral (he was murdered, still unsolved), I got pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt. I was fuming and lucky to not get arrested. Things like "why don't you do your G*d damned job and find the people who killed my friend instead of picking on me", etc.

The Safety Nazis are out of control in this country. It will be our ruin. If seatbelt law supporters are so GD concerned about the medical costs of injuries, why not outlaw recreational sports. Costs due to them far outweigh car accident injuries. Also, outlaw homosexual sex because AIDS costs us billions of dollars per year.


57 posted on 11/30/2004 8:14:10 PM PST by mikegi
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To: LauraleeBraswell
"Seatbelts actually make people better drivers. An individual is better able to control his vehicle when he's not swaying and being pushed about his seat with the acceleration, or turning of the Vehicle. Ineritia So there are less accidents"

You don't really believe that, do you? If your car is swaying and pushing you to the extent you describe, I would consult a mechanic post haste.

The motions you describe are more akin to what happens in a military jet.

58 posted on 11/30/2004 8:17:05 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: yooper

Try it, thats all I have to say. If you really don't believe me sit in the backseat or the passenger seat without a seatbelt on.
When a car makes a turn, you'll move with it. Acceleration, your body moves back.
I wouldn't suggest doing it as a driver.


59 posted on 11/30/2004 8:24:16 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (See and decide for yourself)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
"And when insurance refuses to pay the injuries bill, and if you can't afford it, guess who pays for it."

The government"

"and I think that If the government has got to pay for medical bills incurred because you didn't wear a seat belt , they ought to have the right to tell you to wear one"

You are profoundly wrong, but I don't have the time or patience to explain why. I have to get to bed; gotta work in the morning. The fact that you are here on FR is a positive sign. Seatbelt laws, and the way they were enacted, with the false premise that they would be subserviant to other moving violations, are un-American.

The government should NOT be able to dictate to ME what I should morally do within the confines of my property. That includes my car, and that concludes my evening rant.

Seatbelt laws are as un-American as political correctness.

60 posted on 11/30/2004 8:29:56 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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