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HOW TO STEAL A COUNTRY
NY Post ^ | November 24, 2004 | RALPH PETERS

Posted on 11/28/2004 6:52:57 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

UKRAINE remains an indepen dent state. For now. But last week's shamelessly rigged presidential-election results were engineered by Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin's security services.

Exit polling, opinion polling, international election observers, Ukrainian local authorities and the people agree that opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko, a pro-Western Democrat, won. But the pro-Moscow government of Ukraine claims that the spectacularly corrupt incumbent Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych received the major ity of votes.

Tens of thousands of demonstrators took to Kiev's streets in protest. Even Yanukovych has been wary of declaring his own victory. Yet Putin immediately extended his congratulations to the nervous "victor."

The Kremlin poured massive funding into the election campaign. The pro-Russian mafia that has a bully's grip on the Kiev government stuffed ballot boxes, manipulated absentee ballots, extorted votes and then simply changed the numbers to give Moscow's man a 49 percent to 46 percent lead.

This is the biggest test for democracy on Europe's frontier since the fall of the Soviet Union. Russia always seemed fated for a hybrid government — part elections, part strongman rule — but Ukraine could go either way. Especially in the country's west and center, Ukrainians have struggled for freedom for centuries.

But Russia regards Ukraine as its inalienable possession, stolen away as the U.S.S.R. collapsed.

Fatefully, the ties were never severed between the successors of the KGB in Moscow and Kiev. Now the grandchildren of the Russian thugs who mercilessly put down Nestor Makhno's Ukrainian revolt against the Bolsheviks, who slaughtered Ukraine's prosperous peasantry and murdered Ukraine's intelligentsia are back at work.

This election may have been Ukraine's last chance.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: ralphpeters; ukraine
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1 posted on 11/28/2004 6:52:58 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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DUH Not suprise Joe Vlad want piece of Ukraine nukes that are leftovers from mean Old Soviet days i think Vlad want be Tsar too


2 posted on 11/28/2004 6:56:59 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

"Exit polling, opinion polling, international election observers, Ukrainian local authorities and the people agree that opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko, a pro-Western Democrat, won."

NO, they do NOT agree. Half of Ukraine wants to secede, if Yushchenko becomes president.


3 posted on 11/28/2004 7:00:42 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

What, the Russian colonists? They can clear out of Latvia, too.


4 posted on 11/28/2004 7:12:17 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

You gotta believe the Democrats are envious as hell about this.


5 posted on 11/28/2004 7:13:56 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Let's REALLY Split The Country! (http://righteverytime3.blogspot.com))
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
UKRAINE remains an independent state. For now. But last week's shamelessly rigged presidential-election results were engineered by Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin's security services.

Let's say some nutjob like Algore, Effin' Kerry, or even the Hildabeast gets elected, and their first maneuver is to eliminate the Constitution - despite their oath to uphold it.

Once gone, the Socialists could reign forever - eh?

Lock & load...

6 posted on 11/28/2004 7:36:37 PM PST by Libloather (It's still OK to blame the *Crintons for everything...)
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To: FairOpinion

Not half. No way. The ruling mafia of 3 oblasts (that's only 3 eastern regions) want to secede.


7 posted on 11/28/2004 7:55:55 PM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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To: Tall_Texan
You gotta believe the Democrats are envious as hell about this.

true, but they'll never figure out what it means to fight for freedom.

8 posted on 11/28/2004 7:58:49 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; GMMAC; Lukasz; PhillyGal; GOP_1900AD; Matthew Paul; Kozak; cicero's_son; ...

great article!! puts everything into perspective very well!


9 posted on 11/28/2004 8:03:51 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: FairOpinion
Half of Ukraine wants to secede, if Yushchenko becomes president.

Not so. The vote tallies in the East were massively rigged in favor of Yanukovich. Except for the thug's lair in Donets'k, Yuschenko probably ran even or better than Yanukovich even in the "Russian" east.

10 posted on 11/28/2004 8:10:27 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: Tailgunner Joe

BTTT!


11 posted on 11/28/2004 8:10:52 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: cicero's_son

Well said.


12 posted on 11/28/2004 8:16:38 PM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
HOW TO STEAL A COUNTRY

Haven't the Democrats come close?

13 posted on 11/28/2004 8:18:08 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Democrats are taking notes on this one..


14 posted on 11/28/2004 8:22:32 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Russia regards Ukraine as its inalienable possession, stolen away as the U.S.S.R. collapsed.


15 posted on 11/28/2004 8:29:17 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: SevenofNine
No, Ukraine gave (sold ?) their nukes back to Russia in mid 90's.
16 posted on 11/29/2004 3:36:17 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: KOZ.; Tailgunner Joe; yall
Thanks ! Great article.


17 posted on 11/29/2004 5:53:59 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: PhilDragoo; LibertyRocks; Happy2BMe; devolve; Polak z Polski; Cutterjohnmhb; Lukasz; ...
Great article.


Excerpt:

The tale begins almost a millennium ago. Converted to Christianity, Kiev was the jewel of the north, a magnificent city of churches and piety; Moscow was a shantytown. Then the Mongols came, destroying "Kievan Rus." Muscovy slowly expanded to fill the vacuum left by the destruction of the great Slavic civilization of the Steppes.

For centuries, Ukraine's Cossacks resisted Polish and Russian attempts to rob them of freedom. But by the end of the 18th century, Russia finally broke the Cossacks, dragooning them into its own military forces.

Subjugated, Ukraine responded with a 19th-century cultural revival. The Bolsheviks put an end to that. The first and greatest victims of Lenin and Stalin were the people of Ukraine.

Finally, in 1991, after six centuries, Ukraine regained its independence. Putin intends to take it away again.

With its declining population and threatened Far-Eastern territories, Russia desperately wants the additional population and strategic position of Ukraine back within its own borders, beginning as a "voluntary" federation. An ethnic-Russian population in eastern Ukraine serves as a fifth column.

Disgracefully, the international community appears ready to give Putin a free hand in subverting the freedom of a sovereign, democratic state. President Bush values his relationship with Putin, although Putin hasn't hesitated to undermine Washington's policies.

While constructive cooperation makes sense, there are times when the United States must draw a line — unless we intend to make a mockery of our support for freedom and democracy.

This is one of those times. President Bush should not let a bunch of gangsters in Kiev and the sons of the KGB in Moscow destroy the hopes of a major European state. Ukraine isn't Russia's to steal.

The people of Ukraine who went to the polls to elect Viktor Yushchenko as their president, who want to be democratic, Western and free, need to hear from the White House. So does Mr. Putin.

If we allow Ukraine's freedom to be destroyed without so much as a murmur from our president, we will have betrayed the ideals we claim to support at home, in Iraq and around the world.



18 posted on 11/29/2004 5:55:59 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; F15Eagle; dennisw; SJackson; devolve; B4Ranch
Putin is working overtime to redo what Lenin did in 1913 - ping.

Thanks, MeekO. This confirms volumes.

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Subjugated, Ukraine responded with a 19th-century cultural revival. The Bolsheviks put an end to that. The first and greatest victims of Lenin and Stalin were the people of Ukraine.

Finally, in 1991, after six centuries, Ukraine regained its independence. Putin intends to take it away again.

With its declining population and threatened Far-Eastern territories, Russia desperately wants the additional population and strategic position of Ukraine back within its own borders, beginning as a "voluntary" federation. An ethnic-Russian population in eastern Ukraine serves as a fifth column.


19 posted on 11/29/2004 6:02:58 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: FairOpinion
Half of Ukraine wants to secede, if Yushchenko becomes president.

Is it the PEOPLE who want to secede - or is it the STATE and officials that want to SEIZE/REGAIN Eastern Ukraine for Russia?
20 posted on 11/29/2004 9:37:58 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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