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Elephants in the Living Room
11/24/2004 | Coryoth

Posted on 11/24/2004 1:40:40 AM PST by Coryoth

The United States is facing the possibility of a severe economic correction. Yet most of the causes of such a correction are, for the most part, being completely ignored in preference to partisan bickering. It is the proverbial elephant in the living room - except it is not just one, but several elephants that everyone is doing their best to ignore. While the likelihood that any of these issues could result in disaster is low, these are issues worth taking the time to discuss.

The first elephant is debt. There are 3 kinds of debt that are of concern: Household debt, the budget deficit, and the current account or trade deficit. Of those three, it is only the budget deficit that gets any real attention, and even then it is often brushed aside.

The current US budget deficit stands at $413,000,000,000 in the 2004 fiscal year. This is a record deficit. To put it in perspective, that's 3.6% of the Gross Domestic Product, almost a quarter of total federal spending, or 80% of the total receipts from Federal income taxes. Clearly such a situation is not good, but is entirely reasonable when recovering from a recession. But there are deeper implications for such a large fiscal gap. Some economists argue that such large deficits are detrimental to private investment. The deficit effectively soaks up a large portion of the US's savings, which would otherwise be invested back into the private sector. There is historical precedent for this - investment fell to record lows during the previous record budget deficits under President Reagan. But there is something else to consider as well. This debt is managed by selling Government bonds. These bonds can be, and often are, sold overseas.

Currently, the two largest foreign owners of US Government debt are Japan and China. Japan had an economic boom, but collapsed in the 90s and has been struggling since. The Japanese government is very conservative, and has been remarkably slow to introduce reforms that are seen by many as necessary to stimulate the Japanese economy. Recently however, the Japanese Prime Minister, Junichiro Koizumi, has been fighting to push through the necessary reforms, with some success. In the last couple of years the Japanese economy has shown signs of improvement. Meanwhile, the Chinese economy is strong, and only getting stronger. Why is this important? Because as both of these economies gear up there will be far less interest in investing overseas, and much greater emphasis in investing the the local growing economy. This would essentially amount to a mass sell off of US debt in the form of government bonds, something that would almost certainly fuel higher inflation in the US, putting pressure on the Federal Reserve to take action by increasing interest rates. That is to say, it would almost certainly lead to a large scale recession in the US.

The US current account deficit stood at $530,668,000,000 in 2003 and $313,341,000,000 for just the first two quarters of the 2004 financial year. That's a record figure for each of the first two quarters of 2004. This could represent a country living beyond its means, or it could represent an economic power attracting large amounts of foreign investment. Certainly as long as the US remains a significant economic powerhouse it can sustain high current account deficits. That is, as long as the US remains an attractive place for foreigners to invest, an imbalance is of limited concern. Whether such a high current account deficit is sustainable is a complicated issue affected by many factors. A reasonably coherent explanation of some of those factors can be found in a 2002 paper by Catherine Mann. In rough précis, the current account deficit is balanced by private savings, but widened by budget deficits, yet at the same time is driven by the attractiveness of US investments to foreigners. Should the current account grow too large, the perception of the ability of the US to repay the investment may decrease, causing an economic correction. In the conclusion of her paper Mann indicates that a change in trajectory (from growing to shrinking) is inevitable, and the concern is whether this will occur through slow structural and policy changes, or whether it will be caused by a sharp correction in overseas investment. Two of the major requirements she lists for structural change are greater fiscal discipline (resulting in budget surpluses) and increased personal savings. Since the paper was published in 2002 we have seen massive increases in the budget deficit, as just discussed. At the same time, the prospects for increased personal savings are very limited (which I will touch on in a moment). Add to that the beginnings of resurgent Asian economies attracting investment, and the risk of a sharp correction is certainly much greater. The consequences of a sudden shift in global investment away from the US would be extremely rapid depreciation of the US dollar, most certainly resulting in considerable economic hardship in the US.

US household debt stood at $8,454,400,000,000 in 2002, and has grown since. A quick look at the associated chart shows just how serious the upward trend in household debt is. This debt is driven both by mortgages, and by credit card debt in an increasingly consumerist society. Do you recall the "Shop for America" campaigns following September 11? It is exactly that kind of thinking that helps to drive the consumer society even further into debt. In 2004 household debt increased 4 times faster than the economy, and average credit card debt for households with at least 1 credit card increased 300%, to over $9000. Of course this is not necessarily crippling, as a recent speech by Alan Greenspan points out. It is, however, trending in the wrong direction, and getting worse fast. It is certainly far from the increase in household and personal savings required to help curb the current account deficit.

The concern about debt for the US is, in the end, quite simple. US debt, in all three forms, is huge, and it is only getting larger. All three forms of debt, while different, are connected in that both household debt and government debt have a significant influence of the sustainability of such a large (and growing) current account deficit. At the same time, either the current account deficit or the budget deficit, if they continue to grow, could easily trigger a rapid and severe depreciation of the US dollar. Which brings us to our next elephant.

The second elephant is the US Dollar. At the time of writing, the US Dollar is running at about 0.77 Euros to the Dollar. One could claim that this is simply due to a strong Euro, but in reality most world currencies, including the Japanese yen and the Great British pound are trading strongly against the US Dollar. A quick look at the historical record of the US Dollar against the Euro, the yen, and the pound shows a distinct downward trend over the last two years in all cases. Of course this need not be seen as a bad thing, certainly it is beneficial to US exports, an increase in which would be highly beneficial for the current account deficit. There are potential issues however. The US dollar has, to some extent, remained as strong as it has due its position as the de facto global currency, in which most major commodities, including oil and gold, are traded. The Federal Reserve estimated that in 2003 around $400 billion of the $680 billion US dollars in circulation were held outside the United States. This high demand for US Dollars overseas is an effective prop for the US Dollar, meaning it is unlikely to ever fall too low too quickly. This prop could, however, disappear. The possibility of the Euro becoming a new alternative global currency is increasing.

In 2001 Alan Greenspan gave a cogent speech on the possibilities of the Euro as a global currency. The first salient point is the fact that a global currency tends toward a natural monopoly - as use increases, it becomes an increasingly attractive currency to hold, while the decreasing liquidity of competing currencies makes them less and less desirable as a global currency. Transitions can of course be slow, for example the transition from the Pound Sterling to the US Dollar between the world wars, but once it begins it becomes inevitable. Greenspan then notes that, at least on the surface, the Euro possesses all the traits required of a global currency (a stable currency based in a strong economy with a well developed financial system and deep, liquid financial markets). Greenspan continues by discussing reasons why the US Dollar remained so dominant after the introduction of the Euro. He cites the strength of the US Dollar against the Euro (the Euro depreciated against the US Dollar in its first two years after introduction), the strength of the US economy on comparison to the EU, and the Euro's apparent inability to expand into foreign equity markets. As already noted, the strength of the US dollar against the Euro, and in fact most world currencies, has been in decline. On the other hand, while the relative strength of the EU economy to that of the US has increased during the US recession, the US economy is beginning to show signs of increasing growth. Lastly, however, the Euro is now beginning to extend into foreign equity markets, most notably oil. An increasing amount of Middle Eastern oil is being traded in Euros, and while the US Dollar remains dominant, both Iran and Saudi Arabia have flirted with the idea of completely converting to Euros. Equally significantly, Russia, the second largest oil producer in the world, has expressed serious interest in trading their oil in Euros instead of US Dollars, though it has not yet embarked on such an en masse conversion. For now the US dollar comfortably remains the dominant player, but there are enough signs for concern, and as Alan Greenspan pointed out, a transition will have a tipping point, after which it will be carried by its own momentum.

The threat to the US economy is that this transition, if it occurs, may not be slow. Because the strength of the US dollar is currently supported in part by its position as a global currency, a shift toward the Euro could trigger further collapse of a weakening dollar initiating a panic driven feedback cycle resulting in an almost complete collapse of the US dollar from its current point of strength.

Such a collapse will only be compounded by the fact that the US currently repays its debt in US Dollars - the only country in the world that is granted the privilege of paying off debt in its home currency. Should the US Dollar destabilise significantly (or the Euro establish itself as the global currency) many debt holders could choose to request payment in Euros. This would force the US to purchase Euros (at a markup) to service its debt, both reinforcing the Euro as global currency, an inflating US debt. Such a situation would only serve to exacerbate the US Dollar's collapse.

Of course ideally such a collapse would be halted by the closing current account deficit as the price of imports skyrockets, and US exports become ever more attractive. The US populace is, however, a heavily addicted consumer, more than willing to spend its way into increasing household debt (as already noted). Worse still, US exports have been on the decline despite the recent weakness of the US dollar. Increasingly, the US is importing goods from China, and services from India. Which leads us to another elephant.

The third elephant is the rise of India and China. Both the Indian and Chinese economies are growing very rapidly. These are the two most populous nations on earth, so they should not be taken lightly. Both countries are filled with young and talented people eager to make the most of their education and climb the global economic ladder. In the case of India this has taken the form of, for example, outsourced IT jobs from the US. Increasingly US companies are importing their IT service from India, where there is a vast pool of highly capable people who do not face the vast cost of living that their counterparts in the US do. In many ways this can simply be seen as globalization and free trade beginning to more evenly distribute the wealth of the world, and is not a threat as long as the US continues to innovate and create new industries for itself. There is a question as to whether this actually occurring however.

The most common statistic for measuring economic strength, Gross Domestic Product (GDP), shows the US economy to be in good shape. Current US GDP is between 10 and 11 trillion US dollars depending on whether you measure by Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) or Current Exchange Rate (CER). GDP does have problems, the most important to consider here being its ability to include work that produces no net gain, and its lack of consideration for negative externalities. It is worth considering how much work in the US is included in the GDP that has very minimal net gain. For those familiar with the SCO Group versus IBM court case, its worth noting that tens of millions of dollars have been spent, all counted toward GDP, and yet most observers would point out that, in comparison to the money spent, the gains are negligible if they exist at all. This is common to a surprisingly large number of other court cases in an increasingly litigious country. All of it counts toward GDP, much of it returns little if any gain. A more debatable issue is the current costs of management, particularly in larger corporations that have exceptionally high salaries for the many tiers of upper management - is the net gain provided by management actually comparable to the money being spent. It is certain that management provides significant value, what is unclear is exactly how much value, and how that compares to the salaries involved. As stated, this is a point for debate. The fear is that if, in fact, US GDP is inflated by such issues, the economy could find itself hollow when it comes time to compete in earnest.

Currently India is exporting low and mid level IT services to the US, but given current Indian growth, it is only a matter of time before India is in a position to cease selling its services piecemeal, and instead sell complete packages. At present, while a certain amount of work is being outsourced to India as their economy grows, management and the corporations have remained in the US. Given the growing number of capable and experienced IT workers in India however, it is inevitable that new companies will arise in India taking advantage of the considerably lower cost of living to compete head to head with US corporations for complete solutions. Again we have to question the ability of the US to forge ahead into new industries. It could be argued that ambition for education, science, and research is lower for the current youth of the US than for their would be competitors in India, China, Korea and Japan. While there is involvement from the US in the very ambitious fusion reactor project, it will most likely be sited in Europe, and if not there, then Japan. On the other hand it was a US based company, Scaled Composites, that recently won the Ansari X-Prize and looks to be at the forefront of commercial spaceflight. The future remains uncertain, but this is certainly an issue for concern.

Finally, the rapid growth in India and China is having other visible effects. China, in particular, with its rapidly growing manufacturing sector, has had an an equally rapid increase in its demand for oil, adding a new element to the global oil market. While China is currently trying to slow its economic growth to more sustainable levels, the growth in its hunger for oil is not expected to be similarly dampened. Oil prices are already being driven ever higher, and unlike the crises in the 1970's, it is not due to disruptions in supply, but instead simply due to demand. That this is detrimental to the worlds largest oil user, the US, is obvious. Of more concern is that with increasing Chinese oil needs stretching current oil production capacity to its limits, a disruption in supply now could be catastrophic. This issue is discussed in detail in an article by Paul Krugman. In the wake of ever higher oil prices, alternative energy sources may prove to be one of the most significant new industries in the coming decade. With this in mind, the question must be asked: Which countries are going to be at the leading edge of research in alternative energy sources?

There remains one significant issue to discuss: the domino effect. This is the fact that the three major issues so far discussed are all interconnected. Increasing strength in the Chinese and Indian economies, providing goods and services to consumption addicted Americans willing to go into personal debt to maintain their standard of living, could easily lead to a widening of the US current account deficit. If the current account deficit grows too large it could easily trigger significant depreciation of the US Dollar. Should the US Dollar start too look too volatile, or become a significant financial risk to hold (due to depreciation), global markets could easily start to embrace the far more stable Euro, potentially sending the US Dollar into free fall. During a period of such extreme uncertainty in the US Dollar, foreign investors may well seek to diversify their investments away from the US towards rapidly growing countries such as India or China. That is to say, any one of these issues could trigger the others, to a devastating end.

Much of what has been discussed is speculative. Far from being probable, the potentially disastrous outcomes outlined are somewhat unlikely. Furthermore, even if the worst did come to pass the US would rebound, and may well come back stronger than ever. The reason to consider these issues, despite the low probabilities, despite the eventual recovery, is that the possible effects could be so pernicious during the time required for such an economic correction to shake itself out. The severity of the possible outcome demands our attention. These are issues that US politicians should be discussing instead of quoting the standard divisive talking points about the usual false dichotomies. You won't hear these issues raised, however, because with these issues politicians can't give a soundbite as to how they'll spend some money, or make a law that will fix the problem. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away, and just because there are no easy solutions doesn't mean that nothing can be done. What is certain is that nothing will be done if people aren't aware of the problems.


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1 posted on 11/24/2004 1:40:40 AM PST by Coryoth
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To: Coryoth

Source link for the article?


2 posted on 11/24/2004 2:01:51 AM PST by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: FreedomPoster

I wrote it, so there are no links. I am new here, so a little sketchy on the topics: Should I _only_ include "Your Opinion/Questions" for "Vanity" articles? I included 2 others that seemed relevant, but if that is misplaced I apologise.


3 posted on 11/24/2004 2:09:32 AM PST by Coryoth
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To: FreedomPoster
Is THIS the source?
4 posted on 11/24/2004 2:13:36 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

oops.


5 posted on 11/24/2004 2:26:33 AM PST by nathanbedford
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To: Coryoth

OK, just wanted to know that. That's a pretty heavy-duty article to call it a "vanity", but I suppose many would consider it that.


6 posted on 11/24/2004 2:27:40 AM PST by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: Coryoth

That was very interesting. Makes for a lot of food for thought.


7 posted on 11/24/2004 2:28:23 AM PST by bpcons
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To: Bon mots

That was me (feel free to note the usernames) posting an initial version of the article to a left wing site to

(a) Get some free editing via Kuro5hin's edit queue.
(b) Gauge reaction, and get more ideas.

I am now posting the article (you'll note it has differences - mostly an extra paragraph regarding the US using home currency to service its debt) to a conservative site to present the ideas here, and again gauge reaction and get more ideas - please feel free to make suggestions to ways I could fix or expand the article.

I consider this a relatively non-partisan piece of interest to both sides, and want input and discussion from both sides if I can get it. I fully intend to post futher edited versions of the the same piece to other boards in the future.


8 posted on 11/24/2004 2:32:59 AM PST by Coryoth
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To: Coryoth

That was me (feel free to note the usernames) posting an initial version of the article to a left wing site to

(a) Get some free editing via Kuro5hin's edit queue.
(b) Gauge reaction, and get more ideas.

I am now posting the article (you'll note it has differences - mostly an extra paragraph regarding the US using home currency to service its debt) to a conservative site to present the ideas here, and again gauge reaction and get more ideas - please feel free to make suggestions to ways I could fix or expand the article.

I consider this a relatively non-partisan piece of interest to both sides, and want input and discussion from both sides if I can get it. I fully intend to post futher edited versions of the the same piece to other boards in the future.



Thanks for your analysis. I've been discussing this for some time with my Asian co-workers (from India and China). Seems odd to me that Chinese factory workers are stiffed in their wages by the imbalance between US$ and Yuan, meanwhile idling US factory workers, and Indian knowledge workers are used as bludgeons to drive down US labor costs, while we Americans get to buy a lot of stuff "cheap", and fund loans for McMansions, thanks to the artificially low home loan rates that we can lock in, thanks to various central bankers.

I wish prosperity for all my neighbors. Current trends are not propitious for fullfillment of that wish, however.


9 posted on 11/24/2004 2:50:18 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Willie Green

Ping.


10 posted on 11/24/2004 2:59:42 AM PST by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: Coryoth

This analysis of doom is flawed, because it fails to look at other trends that are moving in the US favor. For example, the increase in home ownership, the successes against the the Islamist, increase of limits on lawsuits, economic growth rates, etc.


11 posted on 11/24/2004 3:21:19 AM PST by playball0
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To: Texas Songwriter; nanak; Dont_Tread_On_Me_888; norton; durasell; CasearianDaoist; Jorge; ...

A few pings to some folks on another thread.


12 posted on 11/24/2004 3:30:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: Coryoth

IMHO, you have ignored something obvious.

Look at a long term chart of the $us.

Overlay a chart of the SPX or other major US stock index.

You will see that the buck last bottomed in this area in 1995. Another period when doom was predicted.

Yet, even the youngsters here know that from that base a wonderful period for the US economy, for stocks, for business, for employment was launched.

I'll take more of that 1995 doom, thank you very much.

Regards


13 posted on 11/24/2004 3:39:15 AM PST by 4-A-FreeRepublic
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To: Coryoth

More democratic gloom and doom. The liberal RATs would love to see the US falter economically under Bush. This trash will keep the liberal lurkers and shakey kneed happy for a while.


14 posted on 11/24/2004 3:44:33 AM PST by Modok
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To: Coryoth

Just noticed that you joined on November 21, 2004. Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?


15 posted on 11/24/2004 3:47:05 AM PST by Modok
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To: playball0
This analysis of doom is flawed, because it fails to look at other trends that are moving in the US favor. For example, the increase in home ownership, the successes against the the Islamist, increase of limits on lawsuits, economic growth rates, etc.

I agree that the article doesn't cover issues in the US favour, and there are many, but I don't view that as a flaw, in the sense that the article is merely an analysis of some of the problems. A full discussion would be considerably longer, and I felt that this was pushing the length limits already. The positives would best be addressed in a separate article.

Instead I simply tried to point out, in both the ontroduction and conclusion, that while the points discussed are problems, they are not portents of imminent doom. Disaster is not likely. They are, however, significant issues that do need to be considered, regardless of the positives.

In specific reply - the increase in home ownership is actually an increase in household mortgage debt (unless you mean an increase in people clearing their mortgages - which I haven't seen any figures on, but may well be true). While I appreciate the gains made against the radical Islamists, I would have to question how that strengthens the US economic position significantly (though certainly security is strengthened). The increase on limits on lawsuits is a very positive sign, I agree. As to economic growth rates - certainly the US is now moving ahead again after the recession - unfortunately this improvement has yet to have an effect in reversing the trends in the current account deficit and the US Dollar. It is still early in the recovery of course, so we may not see the effects for some time. In the meantime I would simply suggest that we keep a close eye on the Dollar, and tread a little carefully until the economic growth truly kicks in.

16 posted on 11/24/2004 3:55:03 AM PST by Coryoth
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To: Coryoth

Good article. You'll catch some grief here because you're new and your article isn't all wine and roses. Hope you get the input you desire. Try to ignore the sniping.


17 posted on 11/24/2004 4:10:13 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: Coryoth; All
I have absolutely no knowledge or education in this area, but my gut reactions based on some historical knowledge and observation of current conditions have been mostly on target.

On this one, I say: the strengthening Euro feels like the tech bubble. People are getting into it for the wrong reasons, and it's unsustainable.

People got into tech because they felt "that's where it's at", not because the dot-coms were making money. People are getting into the Euro and away from the dollar because the dollar is US, which is seen as eeeeevil and capitalistic, and Europe is "where it's at" politically and "morally".

The dot-coms weren't making money, so the bubble was unsustainable. When it went bust, so did those heavily invested in it.

The Euro countries, led by France and Germany, have huge unemployment, low productivity, and life-sucking socialism; a currency based on that is unsustainable at high valuations. When it goes bust, those who still can will run back to the dollar, which for all the debt above-mentioned, has low unemployment, high-productivity, and fair-to-partly social suckage. The dollar, therefore, while not due for big boom of its own, merits at lest stability and even moderate growth

Sorry for the nonensical ramble. See the time stamp and tagline for an explanation. Also I have to wrap this up and get to work. Now.

18 posted on 11/24/2004 4:19:13 AM PST by ExGeeEye (Large coffee, please. Black.)
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To: Coryoth
You point to several problems for managing the US economy, but you seem to treat the possibility of all catastrophic events with equal probability. what I mean to say is, that while it's true that foreign investment in the US could stop instantly, the likelihood of that happening is actually very small for lots of reasons.

In fact, all of the catastrophic events you warn about seem to involve decisions by large groups of investors which all occur simultaneously, but there are serious limits on their behavior which you don't address.

It's rare that a large group of people, forming independent decisions, all arrive at the same conclusion on the same day. This fact imposes intrinsic limits on the behavior of the markets, so an out and out catastrophe is rare.

For those precipitous changes, there are lots of signals leading up the event, and even if the exact moment of the event can't be predicted, it's cumulative likelihood can be, but those conditions don't really exist right now.

I'm not saying that you need to only discuss wine and roses, but the fact is, that markets don't crash every day, so you don't need to treat every day as if there will be a market collapse.

19 posted on 11/24/2004 4:36:25 AM PST by tcostell
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To: Modok
More democratic gloom and doom.

I am not a Democrat - I have no love for the Democrats at all in fact, and would be quite disappointed to see them in power. I don't think this is a Republican/Democrat issue - neither party are taking any time to address these concerns yet, and this is what I see as the problem. The need to cast everything into a Republican/Democrat dichotomy, whether it fits or not, doesn't help address the issues.

I can point you to an article in which the former chairman of the US Federal Reserve suggests that some of these issues are of concern. I can even you point to a very recent speech by the current chairman of the Federal Reserve (who is by no means a Democrat alarmist) stating that several of these issues are of concern.

Is the US economy doomed? No, far from it. Is there reason for concern? Yes, these issues deserve to be watched.

I do understand you point of view - in that there has been much in the way of sniping and bickering from Democrats and Democrat supporters. This is not one of those - this is an attempt to give an account and analysis of some important issues that have remained almost below the radar, but deserve to be addressed.

20 posted on 11/24/2004 4:41:20 AM PST by Coryoth
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