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The Drugstore War
cbs ^ | 11-23-04

Posted on 11/23/2004 7:36:40 PM PST by LouAvul

After Idalia and Jose Moran's son was born by C-section, Idalia Moran's doctor advised her not to get pregnant again for two to three years, and prescribed the pill.

But as CBS News correspondent Byron Pitts reports, when she went to the pharmacy, the cashier said, "You know what? I cannot refill them because the pharmacist says it's against his religion because it's abortion."

Moran told CBS she was stunned and ashamed.

"I felt really bad, because I thought maybe these are for abortion," Moran said. "I don't know."

Across the country, more and more pharmacists are refusing to fill prescriptions for religious reasons.

South Dakota, Arkansas and Mississippi even have refusal clauses on the books. And 13 other states are considering mixing medicine with morality.

At Lloyd's Pharmacy in Gray, La., Lloyd Duplantis believes in prayer.

"God bless the great state of Louisiana, the parish…In the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit…" Duplantis said in a makeshift prayer group in the middle of his store.

And he believes birth control is tantamount to abortion. So, he stocks his shelves accordingly.

"I don’t sell condoms. I don't sell foams. I don't sell creams," Duplantis said. "I don't sell anything to do with contraception."

He said, even if a woman who was the victim of incestuous rape walked in his door after having been prescribed the pill, he wouldn't change his policy.

"I would tell her that I can't prescribe this," Duplantis said.

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KEYWORDS: abortion; conscienceclause; freedom; pharmacy
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To: Pitiricus

How do you know they are "fake morals"? Is it you? You seem to miss the point of it being HIS business. You miss that point repeatedly.


81 posted on 11/24/2004 8:48:44 AM PST by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: LouAvul

If you're a vegan, don't work at a steakhouse and then complain about having to serve meat. If you're opposed to birth control, work at a profession that has nothing to do with it. Birth control pills have been a common feature of pharmacies since at least 1964 and the general public has a reasonable expectation of being served without the fuss. IMHO


82 posted on 11/24/2004 9:50:57 AM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Jaded

Well, because the texts they are based on are fake?

And this is Tartuffian morals, no moral at all...


83 posted on 11/24/2004 12:01:39 PM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Hodar
However, if he works at a place that does stock these things, then he should keep his religon to himself and either sell the drugs, or find another job.

He should either sell the drugs or find another job, IF that's what his employer demands, unless they had an agreement to the contrary up front.

MM

84 posted on 11/24/2004 12:05:27 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: MississippiMan
At Lloyd's Pharmacy in Gray, La., Lloyd Duplantis believes in prayer.

"God bless the great state of Louisiana, the parish…In the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit…" Duplantis said in a makeshift prayer group in the middle of his store.

85 posted on 11/24/2004 12:16:39 PM PST by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: Pitiricus

You mean the Bible?

It's his store, he can sell/stock what ever he wants. If he doesn't carry what someone wants they just move on down the road to the next place.


86 posted on 11/24/2004 12:19:48 PM PST by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: muir_redwoods

"If you're a vegan, don't work at a steakhouse and then complain about having to serve meat. If you're opposed to birth control, work at a profession that has nothing to do with it. Birth control pills have been a common feature of pharmacies since at least 1964 and the general public has a reasonable expectation of being served without the fuss. IMHO"

So should all resturants have to serve all types of food? Should a steakhouse have to serve a tofu burger? Should a vegan resturant have to serve a steak? How about this if you want the pill go to a pharmacy that carries the pill. Or, should we be able to go to Taco Bell and order a Big Mac and go to McD's and order Nachos?


87 posted on 11/24/2004 12:43:47 PM PST by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome (I'm Okies love Dubya 2's "other half")
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
It's a reasonable expectation that, if a licensed physician prescribes a legal drug, then you ought to be able to get the prescription filled at a drug store. If one wants to open a "Christian Drug Store" or some similarly named establishment clearly indicating that they don't fill prescriptions for birth control, fine.

McDonalds proudly advertizes their limited menu by scrupulously guarding the brand identity of their offerings. One knows in advance that one is not going to get a Whopper at a McD's. The point is customer service, not grandstanding on one's purported religious virtue, which is clearly what is going on here.

88 posted on 11/24/2004 1:05:55 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome

The question of coures is how many restaurants you find in a typical town and how many drugstores...


89 posted on 11/24/2004 1:43:22 PM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome

It makes one wonder if there would be such an outcry if a pharmacy didn't carry a specific class of narcotic or didn't carry Ritalin. I don't think there would.


90 posted on 11/24/2004 1:44:12 PM PST by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: Jaded

Whatever... See above...

The expectation of any paying customer is that he/she can get legal drugs as prescribed at the pharmacist. If the pharmacist wants to impose his views, then he better be prepared for boycotts and bankrupcies...


91 posted on 11/24/2004 1:44:43 PM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Jaded

Carry Ritalin? And why not?

If there is one pharmacist in a town, he orders the drugs... His values, morals or lack thereof have nothing to do with what he is paid to do, dispense drugs as prescribed by a MD...


92 posted on 11/24/2004 1:45:59 PM PST by Pitiricus
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To: LouAvul
After Idalia and Jose Moran's son was born by C-section, Idalia Moran's doctor advised her not to get pregnant again for two to three years, and prescribed the pill.

But as CBS News correspondent Byron Pitts reports, when she went to the pharmacy, the cashier said, "You know what? I cannot refill them because the pharmacist says it's against his religion because it's abortion."

Moran told CBS she was stunned and ashamed.

"I felt really bad, because I thought maybe these are for abortion," Moran said. "I don't know."


Well, Mrs. Moran, you could do a few things.

First, you could go to a new pharmacy. Unless you live in Luckenbach, you have more than one in town.

Second, you could call the pharmacist's supervisor and raise holy hell.

Third, you could read up on what you're prescribed so you KNOW what it is and what it does.

Fourth, you could work on self-esteem so what a total stranger says won't "stun and ashame" you, pobrecita.
93 posted on 11/24/2004 1:50:50 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Hodar
I agree.
If I am a doctor, who is also a Christian Scientist, working in a hospital can I refuse to treat any patients?
94 posted on 11/24/2004 1:58:16 PM PST by jimthewiz (California conservative in a bright red county)
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To: LouAvul
If he is the owner of the pharmacy, then he has the right to decide which drugs he will and will not stock.

Not all pharmacies carry all legal drugs.

My husband suffers from a chronic pain syndrome for which he must take very strong narcotics. Several pharmacies have either refused to fill his prescription or have told him that it will have to be special ordered. Their reason is either they fear theft or that it is just too much of a hassle to deal with all the government regulations of this class of narcotic because of its abuse potential.

So he has found a pharmacy that will accept his perscription in advance, fill the order and then call him when it is ready to be picked up.

However, if the pharmacist does not own his own pharmacy but works for a major chain like CVS or Walgreens then it is a requirement of the job to fill every prescription for every drug in stock.

95 posted on 11/24/2004 2:02:01 PM PST by Alouette (When the wicked perish, there is jubilation! Proverbs 11:10)
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To: Pitiricus

I'm sure in your typical town you will find more than one resturant and more than one drugstore. We live in a fairly small city in Oklahoma and we have at least a dozen of each.


96 posted on 11/24/2004 2:48:56 PM PST by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome (I'm Okies love Dubya 2's "other half")
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To: muir_redwoods
I have had several prescriptions that m drugstore would not fill, because they did not carry them. Did I threaten to sue or drive them out of business? NO. I simply went to a drugstore that stocked them.

To be consistent every business should be forced to carry every product of the product type they carry.

Drugstores.....every drug made
Hardware stores...every tool made
Auto Parts stores...parts for every car ever made

etc etc etc
97 posted on 11/24/2004 2:58:46 PM PST by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome (I'm Okies love Dubya 2's "other half")
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To: Pitiricus

Why should he be required to carry everything? It is a private business NOT a chain. It is NOT a government business.

You've already said you think OB/GYNs should be required by law to perform abortions on demand. 'Nuff said in that reply.


98 posted on 11/24/2004 3:15:32 PM PST by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome

No, what you say is a classic example of passive agressive behaviour. It is not true that your pharmacy would not fill the prescription, had you chosen to wait they could have ordered the drug. Your hardware store would be glad to order your obscure tool as well. Try it and you'll find it's true. Abandon your need to be right in this case and you'll see it's true without having to try it.


99 posted on 11/24/2004 5:06:40 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: sinkspur

bttt


100 posted on 11/24/2004 5:11:40 PM PST by cyborg
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