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CIA Terrorist Hunter: Bin Laden 'Great' and 'Admirable'
NewsMax ^ | 11/21/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/21/2004 10:33:22 AM PST by wagglebee

In a series of bizarre comments that show the depth of the failed thinking at the nation's premier intelligence service, the former head of the CIA unit charged with capturing or killing Osama bin Laden said on Sunday that the terror mastermind was a "remarkable," "great" and "admirable" man.

"He's really a remarkable man," former CIA agent Michael Scheuer told NBC's "Meet the Press." "[He's a] great man in many ways, without the connotation positive or negative. He's changed the course of history."

Scheuer's book "Imperial Hubris," which the CIA allowed him to publish anonymously earlier this year, was touted during the presidential campaign by critics of President Bush based on its claim that the U.S. is losing the war on terror. Scheuer ran the agency's bin Laden unit from 1996 to 1999.

While he insisted he didn't mean to praise bin Laden, moments later the ex-CIA man told host Tim Russert that the al Qaida chief was "an admirable man. If he was on our side, he would be dining at the White House."

"He would be a freedom fighter, a resistance fighter," Scheuer added, suggesting that the U.S. would welcome an ally who killed 3,000 innocent office workers in a kamikaze sneak attack.

In more revealing comments, Scheuer went on to blame America's "unqualified support for Israel" for bin Laden's rise.

"There is a perception in the Muslim world, and I think there's a perception on the part of many Americans, that the tail is leading the dog on this case," he told NBC. "And perception, for better or worse, is often reality."

In fact, bin Laden bombed U.S. embassies in East Africa, attacked the USS Cole and planned the 9/11 attacks during the height of the Clinton administration's efforts to pressure Israel to cede territory to the Palestinians, a proposal accepted by then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak but rejected by Yassir Arafat.

Scheuer continued as a senior analyst with the CIA's bin Laden unit until Nov. 12, when he went public in-person with his complaints.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaida; binladen; cia; deathtospies; intelligence; michaelscheuer; napalminthemorning; partyofthehindparts; religionofpeace; scheuer; sedition; terrorists; traitor; treason; wot
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To: proust
Now we know why Bin Laden was never killed or captured.This guy was the head of the Bin Laden unit and should have been fired right after 9/11 for being such a colossal failure.
101 posted on 11/21/2004 1:34:58 PM PST by rdcorso (Did I mention I was in Vietnam where I lost my backbone? Spineless John)
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To: wagglebee
This lunatic will beat any prosecution with an insanity defense. Seems to me, the ones that need to be held accountable for this disloyal SOB are his superiors that hired him, kept him on at the CIA, and them used him to undermine the President's reelection campaign.

This just answers all sorts of questions about how the CIA could have failed on multiple levels to protect this country from its enemies.

Did the CIA lie to the President and Congress about Iraq and the WMD's in an effort to embarrass the President and defeat him in 2004?

Is it possible that Director Goss will be able to weed out every disloyal demonratic operative hiding in the shadows of the CIA?
102 posted on 11/21/2004 1:37:04 PM PST by Scales (Earth First, we will mine the other planets later)
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To: rdcorso
"Now we know why Bin Laden was never killed or captured."

I think this might even solve the how-could-9/11-happen question as well. Democrats claim Bush allowed 9/11 to happen, but it was more likely this infestation of America hating maggots allowed the US to get what it "deserved."

103 posted on 11/21/2004 1:42:35 PM PST by proust
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To: wardaddy
I just researched this traitor.

The most frightening to me is you know there has to be more like him in the CIA. How in the hell can a guy like him even get a job in the CIA MUCH LESS be promoted to an important position?

I guess my 'ol college professor was right.

It was in the 70's and I had a political science professor who said liberals were drawn to institutions and bureaucracies because there was "no real" accountability, no real competition for promotions and/or tenure. He was speaking of college professors in general BUT his theory applies everywhere.

He went on to say conservatives were raised with the theory that their "personal efforts" were the keys to success . . . hence, they went into the business world and other such occupations because the bureaucracies stifled personal initiatives.

Thirty years later . . . and he's even more right today than he was way back then.

104 posted on 11/21/2004 1:42:57 PM PST by geedee (If you're a liberal, what you say is protected. If you're a conservative, it's hateful.)
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To: Prost1
Scheuer needs to be handled as a traitor, a double spy. He should be interrogated extensively and on trial for treason. Then sentenced to hang!
105 posted on 11/21/2004 1:53:38 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: wagglebee
"While he insisted he didn't mean to praise bin Laden, moments later the ex-CIA man told host Tim Russert that the al Qaida chief was "an admirable man. If he was on our side, he would be dining at the White House."

This, THIS! is the guy they had as the HEAD of the unit in the CIA to get OBL? No wonder this dim bulb was allowed to 'leave'. God help the CIA pick someone with more sense than this leftist idiot.

And if this dude represents the leftists in the CIA, it is no wonder the democrats so desperately want to keep the status quo over there....

106 posted on 11/21/2004 3:16:04 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: geedee

It's truly amazing how many Jews are co-conspirators to anti-semitism and nihlism.

"OK, sheeple, get in line. Now remember, breathe deeply..."

"Chosen people"....I don't think so...not with Scheurers, Feinsteins, Boxers, Schumers, Wechsels? (florida),....


107 posted on 11/21/2004 3:31:03 PM PST by Prost1 (What's the difference between a Democrat and a Congential Liar?)
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To: wagglebee

This guy is an absolute disgrace!

Ask the 911 families if there is anything "admirable" about UBL. Ask the family members who lost people in Afghanistan and Iraq!

With morons like this leading the charge, is it any wonder UBL wasn't stopped or caught?

This "man" is a disgusting pig of a human being!


108 posted on 11/21/2004 3:36:48 PM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: Diogenesis

Diogenesis, you can see it all so clearly.


109 posted on 11/21/2004 3:51:02 PM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: iopscusa
Scheuer needs to be handled as a traitor, a double spy. He should be interrogated extensively and on trial for treason. Then sentenced to hang!

Either that are put in a padded room and a straight jacket...he is a looney tune.

110 posted on 11/21/2004 3:56:36 PM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: geedee

We need to purge the CIA and State and lord knows what else.

The Left has flocked to our institutions and foundations period like maggots to a carcass.

I'm not sure we can purge them short of violence.

It's been this way to varying degrees since Hiss. (and before)


111 posted on 11/21/2004 3:59:47 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy

IIRC, CIA and State Department officials are required to sign "oaths of loyalty" to the President and the country. If this is the case, I think these turncoat renegades should be prosecuted.


112 posted on 11/21/2004 4:02:59 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: AmericanMade1776; Diogenesis
Dio, thanks for the ping to this thread.

From AM's post:

His book is a good example of what we analysts used to do:

Research the “checkables” and commit them to memory; Be thoroughly familiar with the findings of serious scholars in academe and the press; Give sustained scrutiny to the primary source of data on any issue or country by applying the proven tools of the endangered-species discipline of media analysis, supplementing that scrutiny with data from classified sources;

So the CIA relies on the ideologically driven press and universities for their reality test.

No wonder we're in such bad shape that we were deluded into prosecuting a war via law enforcement until someone like President Bush, the "uninformed non-book-reading, non-newspaper-reading" dumb frat-boy, used good ole Heartland common sense to analyze the problem.

My prayers are continuing for our president, and now for the brave man who has taken on this battle at the CIA, Porter Goss.

The problem is our universities, which produce the bilge that passes for intellectuality in this country, poisoning the press, teachers at all levels, NGOs and assorted wannabes like the Hollywood crowd which then brainwashes the masses via dramas like "West Wing" and "Law and Order".

Until we deal with what has taken place in academia, we will not win the war against the traitors within.

113 posted on 11/21/2004 4:04:10 PM PST by happygrl
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To: wagglebee
The "man" who has crawled into bed every night for the past three years thinking that the mass murderer he has been charged with finding is a great and admirable adversary, apparently has been drifting off to sleep with a clear conscience and a smile on his face.
Maybe now that this completely unsuitable nobody has had this responsibility taken from him, it can be assigned to someone with the proper killer mindset, not to mention cajones to do the job expected.
114 posted on 11/21/2004 4:07:33 PM PST by finnigan2
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To: geedee
Short answer is that a lot of Jews are High Holy Days Jews the same way as many Christians are Christmas and Easter Christians. And that is not counting the ones who are not even that.

Lumping them together is like lumping Unitarians and Atheists in with Evangelicals.

115 posted on 11/21/2004 4:16:36 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I shall follow your advise to the letter...the day I replace my brain with a cauliflower.)
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To: Chani

I can't buleeeve it..... ping for later


116 posted on 11/21/2004 6:23:25 PM PST by Chani
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To: Ginifer; af_vet_1981; AmericanMade1776; wagglebee; Syncro; Diogenesis
"Foggy Bottom" and Langley are wasp's nests, which need to be completely fumigated if we're ever going to have fully operational intelligence and effective diplomacy abroad.

Dr. Rice and DCI Goss are doing a great job with the duties they've been tasked with, but the mission is not completely finished.

Until President Bush axes that dead weight FBI Director, Robert Mueller, and reforms the dysfunctional bureaucracy over at Quantico, we're not going to be able to pursue a war against terrorism to our fullest capacity.

117 posted on 11/21/2004 6:44:20 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping! Check out #21 also.

Thanks for the ping, Diogenesis!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

118 posted on 11/21/2004 7:14:25 PM PST by nutmeg (Thank you Red States!!!)
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