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Rumsfeld should fight the current 9/11Security Bill
11/21/04 | Me

Posted on 11/21/2004 8:57:45 AM PST by april15Bendovr

Rumsfeld has plenty of reason to worry about these 911 Commission members.

Democrats worried about vote on new security bill? Well why should we not be worried about them?

They had a love for the disgruntled Richard Clark along with protecting Mrs Gorelick's conflict of interest as Clinton's and her own legacy protector.

Combine this with the 9/11 Commissions push for allocating large amounts of money into a new bureaucracy that would take money away from the Pentagon and our troops would spell out disaster.

If I have to pick between who knows best I vote for Donald Rumsfeld.


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1 posted on 11/21/2004 8:57:45 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr

CA Congresswomen Jane Harmen was upset on Fox News this morning with Chris Wallace's stating that behind the scenes Rumsfeld is blocking the new bill.


2 posted on 11/21/2004 9:09:10 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr

The bill is dead- last night it failed to pass. There is talk of it coming back in December- but it seems unlikely.

I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not...have to read and learn some more.


3 posted on 11/21/2004 9:12:52 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: april15Bendovr

The control of intelligence product by one individual gives that individual enormous power. Remember that Beria was the most powerful person In Stalinist Russia. Having multiple intelligence agencies splits power and creates checks and balance. I have concerns about vesting to much power in one intelligence agency or individual. Am I the only one who has this concern?




4 posted on 11/21/2004 9:18:00 AM PST by mrpipesmkr
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Am I the only one who has this concern?

What are you talking about? I miss your point. Too much power to whom?

5 posted on 11/21/2004 9:23:03 AM PST by duckln
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To: SE Mom

If it comes back? maybe the Republicans in congress can make new changes that Rumsfeld could be comfortable with. He must know that his plan of security provided would end up being incomplete and jeopardized if this bill passes. Lets face it the 9/11 Commission were good bureaucrats but not the best people in our intelligence. The CIA is falling apart and being rebuilt as we speak due to dysfunctional people that are now being tossed out.


6 posted on 11/21/2004 9:24:36 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr
Rumsfeld has been and is wrong on many issues, BUT this is NOT one of them. The new intel bill is way out of line and if I was in the 5 sided building, this is an issue worth falling on your sword over. Gutting defense intel meaning losing an incredible (maybe our best source) asset and giving to an organization that has failed the United States many times .... this is a no brainer.
7 posted on 11/21/2004 9:25:53 AM PST by Yasotay
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To: duckln

There is going to be one person in charge of all national security if that bill were to pass.


8 posted on 11/21/2004 9:29:39 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr


Will the house of cards have collapsed? Too much closing in too fast. Repent, pray, change our ways, and be aware,
America.


9 posted on 11/21/2004 9:39:06 AM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge - OUR FIGHT HAS JUST BEGUN)
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To: duckln

A big part of the 9/11 intelligence bill is the appointment of an intelligence Czar to control intelligence efforts and output. This individual would have enormous power. Is this A good idea? I think not.


10 posted on 11/21/2004 9:45:31 AM PST by mrpipesmkr
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To: april15Bendovr

Again, who? And what are the pros and cons, in summary.


11 posted on 11/21/2004 9:46:14 AM PST by duckln
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To: Yasotay
I agree. Rumsfeld should fight this. Having competing intelligence sources is best for our security and our freedom!
12 posted on 11/21/2004 9:48:33 AM PST by mrpipesmkr
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It's not a good idea. We should have any commission running the government. We elected the President to do that.

I'm impressed by our House in stopping this.

13 posted on 11/21/2004 9:51:35 AM PST by duckln
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To: mrpipesmkr

Agreed...having one person control all intel. bothers me. There need to be clear channels for the agencies to share and compare intel. But I for one don't like the idea of one man holding that much power.


14 posted on 11/21/2004 9:52:19 AM PST by Blue Scourge (The media needs to remember which country provides them with freedom of the press...)
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"I'm impressed by our House in stopping this."




Me too ! At the very least there should be an open and full public debate on this, which there has not been. Let's be thankful that many House members saw fit not to sell us out for political expediency !


15 posted on 11/21/2004 9:55:43 AM PST by mrpipesmkr
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To: Blue Scourge

Agreed ! We need clear channels for ALL intelligence product, but not an intelligence Czar who controls all intelligence. People need to be aware of the danger to democracy here.


16 posted on 11/21/2004 9:59:51 AM PST by mrpipesmkr
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To: duckln
Combine mrpipesmkr's comment with my statements and you have your answer. The 9/11 Commission is creating large government in control under one person while the motives of the Democrats have been dubious when processing info leading to their recommendations.
17 posted on 11/21/2004 10:01:06 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr
Agreed ! The maintenance of democracy depends on divesting power to many people, not investing too much power in A single individual. All the "hype" and turmoil created by political parties in our democracy through their opposition of the others policies creates both oversight and public dialog. Within the government, when considering intelligence, this is A necessary safeguard also. However, here the argument should not be between parties, but between opposing intelligence output.
18 posted on 11/21/2004 10:10:51 AM PST by mrpipesmkr
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