Mexico seeks greater ties with Iran mullahs

Persian Journal ^ | Nov 19, 2004, 10:42 | unknown

[hershey]

This is aimed at GW. Mexico to US: Do what we want vis a vis open borders or we'll cozy up to terrorists and then you'll go Boom!

[JesseJane]

What say we start a rumor.... To solidify warm relations with IRAN, Vicente converts to ISLAM, issues mandate to Mexicans to convert or die.

Would be interesting to watch................

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: my reply #100

I have tried to be careful to distinguish between the corrupt government of Mexico's "Mexican Diaspora" and true immigration.

The corrupt government of Mexico clearly intends to keep today's "immigrants" loyal citizens of "a nation beyond borders." The "immigrants" are nonresident Mexicans, period.

A recent news item stated that 47 percent of Americans of Hispanic origin voted for Arizona Prop 200. If I recall correctly some 30 to 35 percent of Americans of Hispanic origin voted for California Prop 187. (More than half supported it prior to the months of TV lies about Prop 187.)

I believe that it is true that, as a group, Americans of Hispanic origin have won more Medals of Honor than any other group.

The point is, the migration of millions of ILLEGAL aliens (most from Mexico) is something completely different. It is aggravated by the corrupt government of Mexico meddling in our affairs at all levels of government and business.

If American business values "cheap" labor more than our Republic then it's it time to demand that the 1986 immigration reform to strictly enforced -- many of the businesses are ID'd in the SSA's suspense file -- and greedy businessmen sent to prison to meet Bubba.

[AuntB]

How, indeed.

[AuntB]

"only 25 percent prefer democracy as a matter of principle. "

That's chilling, but not surprising. A people only understand the concept of democracy if they've fought and died for it.

[AuntB]

"Racism means that you expect a certain behavior from someone because of their skin color/race. "

Perfect.

[maestro]

Mexico NEEDS .....willing....... NAFTA truck drivers.

[AuntB]

"If American business values "cheap" labor more than our Republic then it's it time to demand that the 1986 immigration reform to strictly enforced -- many of the businesses are ID'd in the SSA's suspense file -- and greedy businessmen sent to prison to meet Bubba."

Needs repeated, often.

[eleni121]

What are they promoting? Spring break at Cancun for the Mullahs?

[PersonalLiberties]

Yeap. Its like they are some spoiled teenager and the US thinks that by giving in and doing what Mexico wants it will like us. That's not going to cut it. Time to break out Machiavelli

[PersonalLiberties]

Umm, that would be real estate in a desirable location a/k/a borders and access to the drug smuggling and human smuggling that is already taking place into America.

[JesseJane]

Amen William. In the charter of Azteca, it is a goal to gain political power in the US to MAKE FOREIGN POLICY. There are many many levels involved in this as you stated.

If you go to the EPA website, and look up BORDER XXI, you'll see, that the southern border of the US has been erased and replaced with a BORDER REGION.

Little known information. I first read about this in an issue of NewsMax Magazine (11/15/2001 .. Vol 3, number 12, page 25; TITLED: EPA Website: No U.S. border)

Now when you go to the website: http://www.epa.gov/usmexicoborder/2001/index.htm

You find this comment: This website was active from 1996 - 2001. When the 5-year Border XXI Program ended in 2000, planning began for the next US-Mexico Border Program. As a result, the new Border 2012 Program website was developed. US-Mexico Border 2012 Program .

But the one map I found didn't change.

Hmmm.

[TADSLOS]

It will fail, and plunge Mexico into absolute ruin.

Luckily for them, they won't have far to fall.

[AuntB]

Check this out...worth seeing Lou Dobbs tonight. Sensenbrenner was spectacular. I have faxed them ALL. My rep is Wally Herger, (fax# 530-223-5897) California. With the letter I sent him, I sent along the results of a survey he mailed to me which reflects overwhelmingly his constituents want English as the language of USA, no further work permits for illegal aliens.


LOU DOBBS TONIGHT (snip)

Congress Fails to Pass Intelligence Reform

Aired November 22, 2004 - 18:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

LOU DOBBS, HOST: Tonight, what in the world is Congress thinking? The entire Intelligence Reform Bill blown up because the Senate wants illegal aliens to have driver's licenses.

REP. JIM SENSENBRENNER (R-WI), CHAIRMAN, HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE: I don't like to vote for things on serious issues that might look good on a bumper sticker.

DOBBS: House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Sensenbrenner led the fight to include recommendations of the September 11 Commission to prevent illegal aliens from obtaining driver's licenses.

Congressman Sensenbrenner and House Intelligence Committee chairman Pete Hoekstra will be here to talk about why the negotiations failed and why Congress is refusing to protect the American people.

And I'll talk with Peter Gadiel, the president of the 9/11 Families for a Secure America. He lost his 23-year-old son on September 11.

President Bush says he'll push ahead with plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens. Could it be President Fox and President Bush consider our southern border an inconvenience?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One out of every ten Mexicans lives in the United States.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/22/ldt.01.html

[JesseJane]

Thanks AuntB!!

Sensenbrenner is indeed a hero in this.

I zipped to the link you provided and marked to read in full a little later tonight.. (eyes are worn out now... ) :)

Thanks so much for the link!!

PS.. I heard that Hilla......I mean the woman that Slick Willie is married to, has started to speak out on W's lack of border control, and illegals. I heard only a piece of the discussion, so we are sure to hear more of this before a final vote is taken on the 911 recommendations.

This is going to require diligence on all of our part to make our voices heard on this. She does NOTHING unless she thinks it benefits her politically. We need to be extremely vigilant on this topic gearing for the 2006 races. I'd like a break on this c*ap, but just when your not watching, the snakes move. So.... here we go..

Thanks again for the link.. :)

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Thank you for the border info. Over the years I've googled info here and there all of it leading me to believe that our government (both Parties) have some kind of an agreement to take as many "migrants" as the corrupt government of Mexico wants to send here. It makes sense that they support a kind of fuzzy border until it disappears altogether.

Here is a paper that is good background for any discussion of migration and the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries. "Migration and International Relations: The Liberal Paradox," James F. Hollifield Department of Political Science Southern Methodist University

"[I]n the twentieth century states have been progressively liberated from their dependence on territory and the military as sources of power."

You see, today we have "the trading state" and the "migration state." Migration and trade are "inextricably linked two sides of the same coin." [Globalization, I reckon.]

Recent presidents of the corrupt [my description] country of Mexico (Fox, Ernesto Zedillo) feeeeeeeeeeel that free migration and open borders are logical extensions of NAFTA -- and they feeeeeeeeeeel "Europe [is] a model for how to solve problems of regional integration."

The author states that the U.S. is reluctant to accept that view "preferring instead to create new guest worker programs, or to continue with the current system, which tolerates massive illegal immigration from Mexico."

Our government -- both Parties -- tolerates massive illegal immigration from Mexico.

We are about to have a test of wills between us and them.

What I mean when I use diaspora (small "d"). This is the meaning I use.

Diasporas are transnational groups of emigrants living abroad in host countries but maintaining economic, political, social and emotional ties with their homeland and with other diasporic communities of same origin.

http://www.fierysnow.plus.com/sneeze/diaspora_c2.htm

Or, "they brought their stomachs with them to the U.S. but they left their hearts in Mexico."

This ain't your grandfather's emigration -- and it's not always voluntary emigration. Clearly the corrupt government of Mexico depends upon their "nonresident Mexicans" for mucho dinero -- and Mexico's "citizens beyond borders" are strongly encouraged to support the corrupt government of Mexico against U.S. interests. Some migrant schemes would permit the source country (Mexico in this case) to tax the incomes of the "guest workers" (their citizens) while the host country benefits from "cheap" labor and provides "human rights." So much for millions of Mexican citizens being taxed to pay our bills e.g. Social Security.

[broadsword]

QUESTION: Is there anything about Mexico that does NOT suck?

Anything?

Anything at all?

[nw_arizona_granny]

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