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Bush comes to aid of Secret Service agent
AP ^ | 11/20/2004 | AP staff

Posted on 11/20/2004 4:13:02 PM PST by wjersey

Edited on 11/20/2004 7:38:20 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

President Bush stepped into the middle of a confrontation and pulled his lead Secret Service agent away from Chilean security officials who barred his bodyguards from entering an elegant dinner for 21 world leaders Saturday night.

Several Chilean and American agents got into a pushing and shoving match outside the cultural center where the dinner was held. Bush noticed the fracas after posing for pictures on a red carpet with the summit host, Chilean President Ricardo Lagos and his wife and first lady Laura Bush.


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To: Cousin Eddie
In fact, I HAVE been to Chile -- to La Serena on the way to the ESO at La Silla to supervise the commissioning of a reflector mirror PVD coater. My impression was similar to that of other south-of-the-border countries I have visited.

Don't get me wrong. I have enjoyed my travels in Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Columbia, Panama, Peru, Chile, etc. My point is that, at this critical time, President Bush should avoid traveling to countries where opportunities for his assassination would be fairly high. In this regard I would include virtually all of central and South America.

I realize that this could adversely impact Bush's effectiveness at the bully pulpit, but his work at home is mission critical. There is no reason why these international summits cannot be held in countries where security would be handled much more effectively. I present today's experience in Chile as exhibit "A".

801 posted on 11/20/2004 9:52:37 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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To: Cloverfarm

Bush is physically a strong guy.


802 posted on 11/20/2004 9:54:11 PM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

You are very wrong. Their eyes are always scanning the people around, how do you think they could see danger to the president if their eyes were on him. You evidently know nothing about guarding someone.


803 posted on 11/20/2004 9:54:52 PM PST by lolhelp
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To: wjersey

I read through the whole thread and this is just so telling of this man. A good man who goes into action right away without a global test.

That's the leader I elected alright!


804 posted on 11/20/2004 9:56:46 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: TexKat
"For a few seconds Bush met resistance from the Chilean officers."

AH, Pardon me, he met what?????????????????

805 posted on 11/20/2004 9:56:56 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: gljones; Brad's Gramma; FairOpinion; All
http://teletrece.canal13.cl/ Click on the video just below the first image.

OR for a direct link:

http://callisto.unete.cl:8080/ramgen/canal13/disco7/cdn/nov/20/apec_1120_cena_lideres.rm

Coverage of the different leaders arriving at conference. It's about 1/3 of the way into the video.

806 posted on 11/20/2004 9:58:55 PM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: lolhelp

Okay Mr. SS.


807 posted on 11/20/2004 9:59:16 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Phsstpok

You are probably quite right on all counts!


808 posted on 11/20/2004 10:00:06 PM PST by Quix (PRAY 4 PRES BUSH'S SAFETY; SPECTER OFF COMMITTEE; TROOPS; GOD'S PROTECTION)
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To: ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; devolve; Grampa Dave

I faxed their ambassador at the Chilean Embassy in DC.


809 posted on 11/20/2004 10:01:48 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Just watched the video (link at Post 695) and am even more disturbed about this incident. A couple things really struck me.

First, I watched all 21 leaders arrive and enter the building. In none of those arrivals, except Bush, did Chilean guards attempt to block the doorway. As soon as Bush and wife had entered, Chilean guards immediately sealed off the doorway as if expecting something to happen.

Second, once Bush and wife were in, the Chilean president had them linger at the doorway area much longer than any of the other leaders lingered, as if waiting for something to happen.

This whole thing spooks me. I feel nervous about Bush's safety in the US, let alone on foreign soil. As a law student in Seattle, I can tell you that some of the things I hear from students and law professors alike is chilling.

One humorous note in watching the video (again Post 695) is that the incident caused a bit of a delay of the motorcades that came after Bush. For some reason, I liked seeing Vladimir Putin's motorcade at a dead standstill in the middle of the road, while Bush's SS straightened things out.


810 posted on 11/20/2004 10:01:51 PM PST by UWhusky
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To: wjersey
I'm proud of W too. He is true leadership. We are so lucky to have the W and we dodged a huge bullet in Nov. And all kidding aside this Chile incident is very serious.

This is not a failure of the SS, because they can only control the situation and events to a certain degree in a foreign land. I think this will be looked at, and methods altered account of this incident.

A conspiracy among a small cadre of personnel would not need take much time or be known outside of the group.

Even if Chile is not a 3d world country, it is not a Great Britan for sure.

just my 2 cents

SkyBolt
811 posted on 11/20/2004 10:02:59 PM PST by skybolt
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To: Lijahsbubbe
"Okay Mr. SS."

What an intelligent contribution to this thread. Have you any more?

812 posted on 11/20/2004 10:04:58 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: UWhusky; Ladysmith; Barlowmaker; JonDavid

Thank you very much for pointing me to the video

Video.... can be found at:
http://teletrece.canal13.cl/

It starts after minute 18, a little over a third through the 45 min video.

Bush certainly handled it amazingly calmly, but the few moments were really worrysome.

If anyone hasn't seen it, I would recommend you watch it -- it's just a couple of minutes, once you get to the right part.


813 posted on 11/20/2004 10:05:33 PM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

If I do, I won't waste them on you.


814 posted on 11/20/2004 10:07:39 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Sirc_Valence
If it were Clinton, our agent would have been indicted.

Clinton would have just had Reno burn his house down. (with the agent and his kids in it)

815 posted on 11/20/2004 10:08:38 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: Samwise

I know I'm a little late to the thread, but the security was needed at the PISTONS game.


816 posted on 11/20/2004 10:10:13 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: Lijahsbubbe

Good, I hope you won't waste then on anyone.


817 posted on 11/20/2004 10:10:37 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Samwise

Does anyone have the phone number to the Chilean Embassy? Leats Freep these jerks. They endangered W.


818 posted on 11/20/2004 10:11:36 PM PST by mysonsfuture
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Obviously, you must think they're pretty good, since you posted to me twice.


819 posted on 11/20/2004 10:12:07 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe
The SS don't have to be looking directly at W to know where he is.

How much time does an offensive line (American football) spend looking at the Quarterback? None. The lineman work with their back to the Qback.

Look at the many pictures on Daily Dose the last four years that have an SS agent visible. How often do you see the SS agent looking at the President - none. How often at the crowd or possible source of a theat - always.

Though, for another reason, I will change my position, taken earlier on this thread, that the wall of security types in suits that W. reached over are American Secret Service. Instead, I take it now that they are Chilean security. If they were our SS, they would have let the trapped agent through, without hesitation.

Someone above noted that the problem started when they let W. out of the limo in the middle of that crowd, with just a couple of rope lines holding the mob back a few feet. They should have taken stock of the situation, and drove on. I agree.

And the Chilean security, having just seen W. and his security form a bubble of protection around him and the Limo surely must have known that the man they were blocking was coming off the tail of that bubble. What in tarnation were they thinking by blocking him?

820 posted on 11/20/2004 10:12:20 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (Welcome home, Vietnam Vets.)
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