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Porn Is Like Heroin In The Brain
Focus On The Family ^ | Nov. 19, 2004 | Stuart Shepard

Posted on 11/19/2004 3:07:51 PM PST by Lindykim

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To: Modernman; little jeremiah
Your argument that porn harms the morals of society is utter nonsense.

Any parent could tell you what nonsense that is. What you pour into your mind determines what your values, determines where your moral stops are, determines what you see as acceptable.

A cultural diet of sadistic mass entertainments preceeded by live sex shows turned the Roman people from sober virtuous citizens into a bread and circuses depraved mob. History tells you what nonsense you are talking.

521 posted on 11/27/2004 2:38:15 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham
Small town America for most of its history was monocultural. A town basically had one culture.

Thankfully, most Americans do not live in one-horse towns anymore.

So there were clearly understood cultural rules of right and wrong which if you transgressed, life would be made very uncomfortable for you.

That's nice, I guess. The majority of Americans choose to live in places that do not work like that, thank God.

Try openning up one of your precious porn bookstores in a Mormon or Bible Belt community and you'll see what I mean.

Why would I want to do that? I have no desire to impose my values on anyone. All I ask from you and your ilk is that you do the same. Tell you what- you stay in your small town and do whatever the heck it is you people do, and I'll keep living my evil, degenerate lifestyle.

And America has never, ever been in the least libertarian about things like drunkeness, Sunday business, or obscenity

I'm sure you believe this, of course. Where I live, businesses are open on Sunday, people do get drunk in public and are only arrested if they interfere with the rights of others and adults have the right to buy Playboy.

And I live in Red America.

I think your problem is that you can't accept that most of America does not see the world the same way you do.

522 posted on 11/27/2004 2:43:27 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: puroresu

The more illegitimacy you have, the more often the state must be parent.


523 posted on 11/27/2004 2:43:35 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham
What you pour into your mind determines what your values, determines where your moral stops are, determines what you see as acceptable.

Um, no. I determine those things. Not some inanimate book or video.

A cultural diet of sadistic mass entertainments preceeded by live sex shows turned the Roman people from sober virtuous citizens into a bread and circuses depraved mob.

Um, no. A life of dependence on the welfare state is what broke down the morals of the Roman people.

524 posted on 11/27/2004 2:45:51 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Modernman

I was talking about relatively libertarian pre-1933 America. A one-horse town can be pure libertarian because the weight of ostracism would be crushing. The larger and more diverse the community the less ostracism means so the state fills the vacuum.


525 posted on 11/27/2004 2:47:26 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Ksnavely
Please do not compare me to a dog

It was an analogy to compare the stubbornness. Not directed at you personally. If the shoe fits wear it if not then ignore it.

But I do not believe that the government abolishment route is the best plan of action

Nobody is calling for the abolishment of porn, Just a decent society thats not saturated with wild animistic sexual activity at every turn. All entertainment/advertisement is chock full of it and all avenues of communication seem to depend on it. Dissent have to be that way. and the government should regulate it.

The slut factor needs to be dialed down a notch or two that's all I am saying. It's a negative influence on the youngsters.

526 posted on 11/27/2004 5:35:05 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Dissent= Doesn't
527 posted on 11/27/2004 5:37:48 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: Ksnavely

BTW, How many daughters do you have? Just curious.


528 posted on 11/27/2004 5:40:21 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: Sam the Sham
Any parent could tell you what nonsense that is. What you pour into your mind determines what your values, determines where your moral stops are, determines what you see as acceptable.

I'm a parent, and I'm not buying what you're selling. I have 4 children, a girl 26, a boy 24, a boy 12, and a girl 10.

529 posted on 11/27/2004 9:39:51 PM PST by Melas
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
So me holding to my viewpoint is stubbornness like a dog, but you holding to your viewpoint is what, noble? The government does regulate pornography, think FCC and air wave regulations on network tv and radio, think age restrictions on acquisition of pornography and on the ability to enter the industry, think zoning restrictions for pornographic business, and many more laws and regulations.

"Just a decent society thats not saturated with wild animistic sexual activity at every turn"

Where are you living man? Maybe you should move out of the zoo you apparently live in and into normal America if you want to live in a place that does not have animistic sexual activity at every turn. Our society is not saturated with it, I (like tens of millions of Americans) go through my life on a daily basis and never have contact with pornography. In fact I would have to make a intentional effort to obtain such material. I think it is disingenuous to say that we or saturated with it, it is just not the case..unless of your you are Hugh Hefner's son and abide in the play boy mansion.
530 posted on 11/27/2004 10:33:35 PM PST by Ksnavely
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To: Lindykim
"On the issue at hand. Since it was by an unconstitutional USSC edict that the harm we're speaking of was unleashed upon American society, doesn't it seem logical to you that the harm be undone by a reversal of their poorly reasoned and highly disastrous edict?"

At first glance yes. But upon further reflection I would have to say no. Yes I agree that particular verdict was a large step in opening Pandora's box. The fact is now that box is open, and we must make an honest assessment of our current culture and past historical references to arrive at a strong plan of action for how to deal with this. If simply repealing that verdict would change the situation then yes I would be all for it. But I believe as I have said before that the only sure fire way of beating this will not be through simple repeals of the laws (doing this would have the opposite affect, there would be a backlash much like prohibition).

I believe our society as a whole must choose its path. We cannot force the decision, but only work to change the hearts of the ones deciding.

If their is going to be a huge cultural realignment back to a more biblically moral place regarding sex, I want it to come from people who have their hearts changed because of a new found love for God rather then through a government censureship program. Think about it in terms of conservatism. We conservatives always talk about how the private sector does a better job then the government. I think this particular issue is no exception. Personally I don't trust government to handle this job and I don't trust their methods.
531 posted on 11/27/2004 10:52:12 PM PST by Ksnavely
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To: Know your rights

But they relied on the morality of the people to keep the Republic together! Don't you get it...?

What do you think Ben Franklins great quotation meant when he stated to on lookers ..."We have given you a republic...if you can can keep it!"


532 posted on 11/28/2004 6:28:07 AM PST by mdmathis6
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ASSIST NEWS SERVICE: "A DIRTY LITTLE SECRET!" by Jeremy Reynalds (December 14, 2004)

533 posted on 12/15/2004 11:41:43 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Pearls Before Swine

bump to read


534 posted on 02/04/2005 8:54:25 AM PST by holdmuhbeer
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