Kill 'Em All, Let Allah Sort 'Em Out

MichNews ^ | 11/18/2004 | Chris Davis

[writer33]

One U.S. Marine, a cameraman, and a terrorist. The marine, acting in complete self-defense, fired the round into a terrorist pretending to be dead. Seconds later, the terrorist was dead, and now part of the mosque’s décor.

What do you get when you add all of that up? A compulsion to run with the tape. The mainstream media had President Bush now. This will get him impeached. They knew this ‘Cowboy’ was sending troops over to Iraq to murder innocent civilians. The Dennis Kucinich theory was in full swing. Somehow, the liberal press would have you believe that this poor, unarmed, Iraqi civilian would still be alive had this trigger-happy Marine not gunned him down in cold blood.

Democrats have pulled out all the stops and the Civil Rights lawyers to defend this poor, “insurgents” soul. Michael Gross was already championing the plight of this suffering, innocent terrorist on Hannity & Colmes, November 16, 2004. So, the strategy begins for liberals and the Democratic Party. Dig up anything and everything they can on President Bush and press for impeachment and removal from office; a theory expressed by Rush Limbaugh months before the reelection of President Bush.

In order to have that happen, liberals and the mainstream press want everyone in America to think our soldiers are murderous thugs, thugs that were duped into going to Iraq at the whim of an unchecked, imbecilic, war-mongering president. Nothing could be further from the truth. Our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and coasties are honorable men and women, serving with distinction in a war that protects the life of everyone in this United States, and they spread liberty throughout the world. In a Reuters news story, his fellow brother-in-arms defended that brave marine. “I would have shot the insurgent too. Two shots to the head,” said Nicholas Graham, 24, of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. “You can’t trust these people. He should not be investigated. He did nothing wrong.”

Exactly the point. If we are to believe this Iraqi man is an innocent civilian, then what was he doing faking his death? Why would a civilian caught up in the battle not cry out for help? Especially when help was right there? Because he wasn’t an innocent civilian, and he wasn’t an “insurgent.” He was a terrorist assassin out to kill Americans, period. He could’ve been booby-trapped. He could’ve had a hand grenade in his hand. There is a myriad of possibilities that could’ve led this marine to shoot him. Speculation at this point is a typical senseless agenda. This shouldn’t have even made the news. There should’ve been cheers for the marine for doing his job. Instead, we have Democratic operatives trying to insert doubt into the minds of the American people by insisting on an investigation.

Since the days of Watergate, liberals have been trying to remove conservatives by scandal. It seems to be the only method they know how to use. So, by suggesting that there needs to be an investigation behind this shooting, they’re implying that there is something wrong, something the American people need to know. Democrats want everyone to think that this marine performed a war crime. The kind of crime John Kerry committed while in Vietnam. They hope, in their warped machinations, that Americans will begin to think of Iraq as they did Vietnam, which happened to be the entire philosophy of the Kerry campaign. It’s the kind of rhetoric that Janine Garofolo trumpets, the kind of lies the press wants in your subconscious. It didn’t work then, and it’s not going to work now.

Could America have survived World War II and Korea with the meddling press corps we have today? In those days, we would’ve leveled everything; anyone that didn’t get out of the zone would’ve been part of the landscape. Now, with precision weapons and an overly sensitive press, we exercise caution at every little nook, cranny, and mosque. During WWII, that marine would’ve been walking through a blasted pile of rubble. That’s why this marine found himself face to face with an injured “insurgent.” That’s why there’s a story for the press to blow completely out of proportion, and that’s why we’re in Iraq, to liberate the oppressed from terror.

We’re spreading freedom throughout Iraq, which will help to stabilize an extremely volatile area of the world. These assassins operate on one kind of mentality: “Kill ‘em all, let Allah sort ‘em out.” Which is why a terrorist—one that was injured from earlier fighting—was playing dead. This leaves our fine men and women of the U.S. Armed forces only one choice, survival of the fittest.

This marine did his duty. He made a judgement call, protected himself, his unit, and the United States of America. America should be proud of this young marine, bursting at the seams with confidence. This marine’s actions reflect great courage upon himself, his unit, the Marine Corps, and the United States of America.

Semper Fi, marine.

[Former Military Chick]

terrific post and ping

[FBD]

"That defense, assuming those making the decision followed the letter and spirit of UCMJ, could not rest on the claim that the wounded soldier "might have done X, Y or Z." It would have to be based on demonstrating a tangible threat."

DrC, It's easy for you to sit in your arm chair and bloviate about what this Marine should have or shouldn't have concieved of in a couple of seconds of time, especially when his buddy was blown up the day before, in a similar situation.

Let's ask a Veteran from Vietnam, what he thought of this marines situation:

"If you hesitate in a situation like this, YOU can be the dead one" - Sen. Bob Kerry (D)(the good kerry, interviewed on the Hannity & Colmes show- 11/18)

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Now, let's put the bloviating DrC in this Marines situation:
He's just been shot in the face, been in a firefight in the last half hour with terrorists that were in the mosque that the wounded terrorist was in; what would YOU do DrC?: ...."the wounded soldier "might have do X, Y or Z." It would have to be based on demonstrating a tangible threat...."

BOOM!

Guess what DrC? You hesitated...and YOU'RE DEAD.

You won't be court martialed, and tried by 12 of your buddies...you'll be carried by 6 of them, instead. But don't you feel better about yourself?

[FBD]

The story you don't hear:
(This happened the day before the Marine shot the wounded terrorist.)

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- A young Marine and his cover man cautiously enter a room just recently filled with insurgents armed with Ak-47's and RPG's.

There are three dead, another wailing in pain. The insurgent can be heard saying, "Mister, mister! Diktoor, diktoor (doctor)!" He is badly wounded, lying in a pool of his own blood.

The Marine and his cover man slowly walk toward the injured man, scanning to make sure no enemies come from behind. In a split second, the pressure in the room greatly exceeds that of the outside, and the concussion seems to be felt before the blast is heard.

Marines outside rush to the room, and look in horror as the dust gradually settles. The result is a room filled with the barely recognizable remains of the deceased, caused by an insurgent setting off several pounds of explosives.

The Marines' remains are gathered by teary eyed comrades, brothers in arms, and shipped home in a box. The families can only mourn over a casket and a picture of their loved one, a life cut short by someone who hid behind a white flag. But no one hears these stories, except those who have lived to carry remains of a friend, and the families who loved the dead. No one hears this, so no one cares.

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I have a request to all:
Please pass this part of the (untold) story on.

DrC, I'll excuse you from this request, as I'm sure you wouldn't want you to jettison your lofty euro-weenie ideals.

[EGPWS]

Kill 'Em All, Let Allah Sort 'Em Out

Interesting concept.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!!

[Happy2BMe]

The Marines' remains are gathered by teary eyed comrades, brothers in arms, and shipped home in a box. The families can only mourn over a casket and a picture of their loved one, a life cut short by someone who hid behind a white flag. But no one hears these stories, except those who have lived to carry remains of a friend, and the families who loved the dead. No one hears this, so no one cares.

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"The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional to how they perceive veterans of early wars were treated and appreciated by our nation." - George Washington

__________________

IT'S THE SOLDIER

It's the soldier, not the reporter
Who has given us freedom of the
PRESS.

It's the soldier, not the poet,
Who has given us freedom of
SPEECH.

It's the soldier, not the campus
ORGANIZER,
Who has given us the freedom to
DEMONSTRATE

It's the soldier, not the lawyer,
Who has given us the right to a
FAIR TRIAL.
It's the soldier who salutes the flag,
Serves under the flag
And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
Who gives the protester the right to burn the flag.

-Father D. E. O'Brien

 

We Must NEVER Forget!

Iraqi Coalition Casualty Report

* * * * *

Because of Their Sacrifices, These People's Lives Will Never Be The Same.

[Landru]

Father D. E. O'Brien's quote was very appropriate, under the circumstances.

...-BTTT-

[MeekOneGOP]

You're talking about "The Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd. It's that song.

Yep! I used to have the LP of that way back then, too.

Remember LP's?? LOL!

[MeekOneGOP]

Thanks, folks.

FBD, I just forwarded your text in #143 to a number of folks via email. Including Michael MORON Moore, fat teddy kennedy, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, etc. .....

[blackie]

I signed it two days ago ~ thanks for reminding people, Chris!

[blackie]

You nailed it, Chris ~ great writing my man!

[lilylangtree]

Good luck there! Your email is as bad as I get when talking about OH.

[Reaganghost]

Rush's monologue for the first hour on Wednesday for subscribers to 24/7 was terrific. And later in the show he ripped that half-wit, Chris Matthews, a new one. Rush clearly identified who the bad guys are and that this soldier was not only doing what he was trained for, he was doing his duty. Matthews's attempt and the efforts of the rest of the media's attempt to portray this soldier as the bad guy and the terrorist as the victim should not be excused on the basis that the media did not understand the facts or went temporarily insane. What the media has done with this event is pure premeditated evil. The media does not deserve forgiveness for this episode; they deserve punishment.

[namvetcav]

Your #97:
1. You're proud to claim regurgitating the words of an unidentified West Point prof. Ya'know that might be a "verecundiam" fallacy if only you could ID the joker and hit the full bogus level. On the other hand, you see my #85 and the lack of respect I have for thoughts generated by you. Your little popgun is not the Crack of Doom and whether the little popgun belongs to him or not, your argument amounts to unsupported leftist assertions which undermine our troops.
2.You call yourself agnostic with respect to the Marine's guilt. My, you are quite shameless aren't you? You say he, ". . . might conceivably offer a credible defense." Almost inconceivable but we see your deeply creative mind operating here. You say you believe he will be court-martialed and if he's convicted this with garner respect (Frenchman, without doubt) and if he gets off our military personal get the OK for brigandage. It is also conceivable that you've done in some '98 Freeper and waylaid his password and are giving us the full #6.
3. When you make pretentious assertions about the letter and spirit of the UCMJ is that you or could that be the unidentified eleventh postwar knuckle-headed professor who got a job at West Point?
4. It appears awfully childish to bring in Scott Pederson or even Abu Graib when you don't address my comments in #85. I doubt that you have a clue about the military justice system. Peterson would get nailed as fast a Lindie England's boyfriend. There's no fairy dance, politics, Zola, or Dickensian pettyfoggery in combat law. Our youth gets blasted in the twinkling of an eye and, as you forgot to address in #85, the system isn't there to get our combatants killed. Your head would probably explode if I told you how much hard time William Calley did for MyLai. "But I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd here."
5. Frankly, I don't like your use of the pronoun "we". "If we convict him." You're not one of "us" and more than that, it would be Marine officers that would convict him and you're a long, long way from that I have to say.

6. Misc. stuff. ". . . our soldiers should abide by the UCMJ:do you take a different position?" Fallacy of the False Dilemma - you're in the Bill Press Fan Club and you're begging the question of whether you know sh@t from shinola about the UCMJ.
7. "It would have to be based on demonstrating a tangible threat." Lame for many reasons but you've mastered Madame DeFarge's concept of burden of proof.
8. If it was "no big deal . . ."
Straw man. Try quoting me or some concept I presented.
9. "Pederson wasn't guilty until convicted."
Thanks for your service on the OJ jury, Buster.
10. "Did Abu Graib 'harm every soldier . . ."
Conflates a pair of your silliest arguments and uses the Either-Or Fallacy. It is downright moronic to ask me if convicting ". . .digital camera perverts abusing unarmed prisoners" is consequentially equivalent to lynching a Marine for a split second combat decision. Your moral sense is repulsive here. If I assert it's bad to convict the Marine, it's morally bankrupt to answer with the sophistry that, "Was it bad to convict Tojo and Goring?" The Marine isn't Tojo and isn't Abu Ghraib. Only a DU-type would think that malarkey works.

So, get yourself some DU time. They'll enjoy your thoughtful discourse. They love shallow and respect nearly all injustices visited on America. Please don't keep them waiting on my account.

[FBD]

^bump!

Thanks for the pings, meek.

[writer33]

Thank you, EGPWS. I appreciate the nice comments more than you know.

[writer33]

Thanks for the triple bump, E.G.C. I appreciate it more than you know.

[writer33]

"Remember LP's?? LOL!"

I remember LP's. I also remember 8 tracks. I hated 8 tracks, because you always had to fast forward through all the tracks to get back to your favorite song again. Records were different, but replacing the needle was tedious. I'm still a little partial to cassette tapes. I do like CD's though.