Posted on 11/18/2004 9:40:03 AM PST by red_is_beautiful
This time, the blood spills in "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas," which looks, feels and sounds a lot like its predecessors. That means you pull off drive-bys and other hard-core criminal goals, while killing cops, prostitutes and hundreds of innocent victims on the side. Some people complain that the game could desensitize children to murderous images. But it's rated M for Mature. Kids aren't supposed to have access to it, even though we know that many will. [...] There's sex in "San Andreas," as there was in "Grand Theft Auto III." For a small amount of money, you can pick up hookers and drive them behind a bush. The car rocks. Talk is exchanged. [...] The game is smart like that, but the characters aren't. The one thing I can't make happen is intellectual reflection. Characters point guns. Characters kill one another other. Not one stops to think.
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Rape and other types of violent sexual assault are more acts of direct power over other people than sexual pleasure, this is why when tyrannical foreign armies capture POW's they rape them; too break them. So your statement is nothing but a strawman.
Your kind used to peddle that nonsense 30 years ago. Nobody does today. Gee, I wonder why ? Maybe because if a culture nurtures evil it reaps evil.
It is YOUR kind that has been peddling the type of insanity for the last FORTY YEARS that has turned this country's schools into PRISONS. Tell me, how does it feel to push 'nanny-state' sytle regulations and laws that rob children of their childhoods...
Live however you want, but don't expect me to live according to your rules. And don't rely on the government to protect your children from adult content. That's your job.
So censorship is how parents fight back.
Lazy, irresponsible parents who love the nanny state, maybe.
Following your logic, we should ban anything that might be bad for the children: fatty foods, alcohol, tobacco, guns...religion?
I think they call it "Masterpiece Theater" on PBS. Zzzzzzzzz....
I, personally, have decided to not allow my 14 year old son to play these games. I do not, however, want the government making the decisions on what my son is ready for.
Maybe you would be more comfortable in the Party of Hollywood than the Party of churchgoing Americans.
President Bush is for freedom and a free market. Not a wannabe nanny state with self appointed mullahs running around, or a Vice and Virtue Squad.
Perhaps you would be happier in the Party of Hollywood, standing shoulder to shoulder with the ACLU protecting America from religion than the Party of Churchgoing Americans.
Well if there's enough of a cultural revolution then it will no longer be profitable to make games like GTA. I have no problem with using market forces to clense the entertainment industry, actually I'm a big proponent of it. But understand there's two sides to market forces, not only do you need to make games like GTA not profitable you also need to make clean holsom games profitable. It goes across the board, show the entertainment industry there's dollar to be made by chasing the cultural conservatives and they will, or do you think it's just a coincidence that Left Behind got so many sequels.
You're the one who wants to use the government to force the rest of the country to follow your viewpoint. That is not a Republican position. That is what liberals want to do.
I really don't care whether you go to church or not, whether you buy GTA or whether you let your kids play it. I certainly don't want to use government to force you to do, or not do, any of those things. I actually expect you to make your own decisions as to how to live your life and to live with the consequences. And I expect you to take care of your own kids.
You on the other hand, love the government and the nanny state. You want it to step in and tell people how to think, what to read and what to watch. You're no different than Hillary Clinton and her kind. You just want to use the government for slightly different purposes.
Speaking of which, just last night I saw a television ad for Backyard Wrestling II - There Goes the Neighborhood. Looks most entertaining. ;-)
What makes you think I have any desire to interfere with your religion?
That's a...creative interpretation. It could also have something to do with Americans wanting tax cuts and dead terrorists. Bush is not a theocrat, regardless of what you and the moonbat left would like to believe.
The people who created GTA have targetted your child. So censorship is how parents fight back.
So you advocate responding to the fake violence of video games with the actual violence of censorship. Not exactly consistent with limited government, free markets, or individual responsibility, is it?
Good Lord. Where did you find a fire axe? ;-)
it's about cultural conservatism and moral values not about abolishing ego shooters ... in GTA you act as a criminal in a virtual world and with nearly every action in that "world" you violate fundamental rules of our society. what if a game in which you can act as terrorist is the next to be produced? where are the limits? and finally: do you believe that people wouldn't play a game with the same quality! if they have to hunt down terrorists or criminals (and not the innocent)?
That would be Command and Conquer: Generals.
There's also a first-person shooter where you can either play the cops/special forces or the terrorists/criminals they're fighting.
Isn't one of the big 3D shooters Delta vs terrorists and you can play either side?
One of the things people don't understand about gaming is the escapist element. most gaming of the modern era (and I'm talking paper and pencil stuff like RPGs as well as video games) is escapist in nature. You play games to do things you can't do in reality, whether because it's illegal, moral reprehensible, not physically possible, or you just weren't born at the right time depends on the game itself, but the core concept is still there. Nobody is learning behavior from games, at least nobody sane, they are rebelling against learned behavior, and doing the rebellion in a contained and safe way where it can't harm anyone because it's unreal. When a GTA player takes his car up to 100 MPH and hops onto the sidewalk he isn't running over people he's running over pixels, nobody gets hurt, no fossil fuels are burned, no paint scratched, no insurance rates climb.
In a society with fewer and fewer opportunities to live "outside the box" (could anyone live the life of Hemmingway now) we have created a box to get into where people can pretend and escape the larger box of life.
correct me if i'm wrong: in c&c you find yourself located in a fantasy world or in an era of history and not in an contemporary city and therefore you are not dealing with actual problems of our society in an "indifferent" manner...
Well said.
LOL, the GLA car bombs and terrorist suicide bombers. Great game!
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