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DIET: Republicans looking to repeal law requiring food labels to carry country of origin
Duduluth Superior ^ | November 17, 2004 | Libby Quaid

Posted on 11/17/2004 12:37:51 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Telling consumers where their meat, fruit and vegetables came from seemed such a good idea to U.S. ranchers and farmers in competition with imports that Congress two years ago ordered the food industry to do it. But meatpackers and food processors fought the law from the start, and newly emboldened Republicans now plan to repeal it before Thanksgiving.

As part of the 2002 farm bill, country-of-origin labeling was supposed to have gone into effect this fall. Congress last year postponed it until 2006. Now, House Republicans are trying to wipe it off the books as part of a spending bill they plan to finish this month.

House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., said he expected the Senate to agree to repealing the measure, whose main champion two years ago was Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D.

"I can't find any real opposition to doing exactly what we want to do here," Blunt said.

President Bush never supported mandatory labeling. Chances for repealing the law improved when Daschle, still his party's leader in the Senate, was defeating for re-election Nov. 2. Daschle indicated through a spokesman this week that he probably will not fight the repeal.

Those who want the repeal say the labeling system is so expensive that it far outweighs any benefit to consumers. The Agriculture Department has estimated the cost could range from hundreds of millions to billions of dollars in the first year alone.

"Everybody realized it was going to cost a lot of money, and ranchers were going to have to bear most of that," said Sen. Jim Talent, R-Mo., chairman of a Senate Agriculture, Nutrition and Forestry subcommittee on the issue.

Food processors and other opponents of mandatory labeling say they are amenable to voluntary labels.

Grocery Manufacturers Association spokeswoman Stephanie Childs cited the government's voluntary standards for labeling organic food and said, "That's the sort of thing we should be looking toward."

Supporters of the labeling requirement says opponents want the repeal so producers will not have to spend money getting ready to follow the law. The House Agriculture Committee approved legislation this year to substitute a voluntary system for the current law.

The issue divides cattlemen and other livestock producers. Many of the bigger livestock and feedlot operations, as well as food processors, do not want mandatory labeling.

There are 4.5 million cattle and 2.9 million hogs in Missouri; Kansas has 6.65 million cattle and about 1.5 million hogs.

Producers in favor of mandatory labels believe consumers will prefer U.S.-grown food over foreign imports. The law requires companies to put country-of-origin labels on meat, vegetables and fruit.

"We really feel that country-of-origin labeling is one of the key things we need to keep ourselves competitive in that market. I understand the trade-offs," said Doran Junek, a rancher in Brewster, Kan. Junek also is executive director of the Kansas Cattlemen's Association, an affiliate of R-CALF United Stockgrowers of America.

Consumer groups say the issue is whether buyers have a right to know where their food came from.

"When nutrition labeling was suggested by advocates 25 years ago, the industry kept saying, `Oh, we can't do that,'" said Carol Tucker Foreman, director of food policy for the Consumer Federation of America. "Look, they've done it. They love it. Consumers use it."

The wrangling does not affect fish because Congress did not include fish last year when it delayed the mandatory labeling. Fresh and frozen fish will be required to carry labels beginning in April.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: duluth8superior; food8labels; meat; trade
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To: pissant
This is so the Republican's and Democrat's centrally controlled global trade system can be advanced. Its been demonstrated repeatedly on this forum that borders must be erased for the NAFTA and the FTAA to be implemented as designed. Therefore, any distinction about country of origin must be eliminated. This plan, to remove country of origin from food labels part of the "deep integration" our government is planning for us with other countries in the western hemisphere. Also by not labeling the country of origin, you don't know what quality and sanitation standards are applied to the food product you just bought.

This plan is an egregious attack on our sovereignty and freedom of choice and must be stopped.
41 posted on 11/17/2004 1:07:12 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Those who want the repeal say the labeling system is so expensive that it far outweighs any benefit to consumers. The Agriculture Department has estimated the cost could range from hundreds of millions to billions of dollars in the first year alone.

I find it strange that it's *that* expensive to put a few words on the label saying "Made in Spain" or whatnot. And tho' it's not really important, I like seeing where my food comes from.

42 posted on 11/17/2004 1:08:11 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
If this really can cost "billions" of dollars, something's wrong with it. I mean, how much can it cost to put a sticker on a tomato?

My guess is there's something really fishy about this plan (even though it doesn't cover fish). Maybe they want to label a can of chili to display the origin of each and every ingredient? Nah, they wouldn't dream of doing anything THAT stupid.

43 posted on 11/17/2004 1:08:20 PM PST by newgeezer (We learn by trail and errror. ;-)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Other countries have fewer regulations, lower land costs, fewer taxes. The only way sometimes for our guys to compete is to label that the origin of the food product is the U.S. Some of us prefer US produced foods because of our safety standards and general safety of the food supply. That food is produced in America is a value-added feature for a product. If you take it away, our guys cannot compete on price alone because of the above mentioned government restrictions that harm our competitiveness.


44 posted on 11/17/2004 1:10:16 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Howlin
Does it cost extra to print "Grown in America" on the label?

Good question. How does a change in the typeset on the labels add up to hundreds of millions or billions of dollars a year?

45 posted on 11/17/2004 1:10:19 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: DoughtyOne

If Bush doesn't want it, then it probably hurts Mexico.


46 posted on 11/17/2004 1:11:12 PM PST by Feiny (Scream if you love silence.)
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To: EdReform
bump!

47 posted on 11/17/2004 1:11:50 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Mears
are these guys idiots?

They are globalists sucessufully constructing a centrally controlled global trading system (WTO) that puts domestic producers at a disadvantage or out of business. It verges on treason if you ask me.
48 posted on 11/17/2004 1:12:04 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: newgeezer

That's the point. Also the cost of verifying that your sources identified their sources correctly can be expensive.

On the other hand, most of the stuff I buy does say where it comes from. Most contries like to brag. In the US, many items are labeled by state.

How do you label things like fresh vegetables? Put them in plastic wrap with a label?


49 posted on 11/17/2004 1:12:24 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Jim Robinson
wouldn't it make sense to require it on imported foods only?

I agree but, it had better be indelible ink. Otherwise, stickers on fruits, vegetables, and meat packaging might develop a tendency to "come off."

Frankly, I'd think domestic producers would WANT to put COO labels on their products (voluntarily, of course). I wouldn't be surprised if there's some FDA or Ag. Dept. rule prohibiting it.

50 posted on 11/17/2004 1:13:37 PM PST by newgeezer (We learn by trail and errror. ;-)
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To: Fatalis

What are we missing here?


51 posted on 11/17/2004 1:14:26 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I emailed Rep. Chip Pickering, explaining my concerns, and directing him to look at this thread.


52 posted on 11/17/2004 1:15:48 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: feinswinesuksass

LOL, I think you're probably on to something with that one.


53 posted on 11/17/2004 1:16:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
How do you label things like fresh vegetables?

Most of the vegetables I buy in the grocery store already have some kind of a little sticker on it, I suppose to identify to the cashier which variety of vegetable I'm buying (the $3 tomato, as opposed to the $5 one).

Of course, stickers can fall off. But, I think they've engineered them so that they can only stick to something once.

54 posted on 11/17/2004 1:16:24 PM PST by newgeezer (We learn by trail and errror. ;-)
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To: Jim Robinson
I know where my food comes from. It comes from the farmers and ranchers of the "red" counties. People in the "blue" counties are not concerned. They get their food from the supermarket.

BINGO!!!!!!!!

That Jim, was my first reaction - thank you for saying it so well.

55 posted on 11/17/2004 1:17:58 PM PST by Gabz (Thank a Veteran today............and every day)
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To: Final Authority

You are right. It is the phyto-sanitation clause in the Agriculture section of NAFTA. This law allows green onions irrigated with sewage in Mexico to be shipped to restaurants like Chi-Chi's in Pennsylvania.

Mexico suffered no harm in this incident. Here, people died and a restaurant chain went out of business. They can't sue because its perfectly legal to ship produce grown this way out of countries like Mexico because they are protected by NAFTA.

If there were no labeling, how would the FDA track down the source of contamination? It would be a lot harder, and much harder to keep our food supply safe.


56 posted on 11/17/2004 1:18:20 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

I just don't get it. We can't buy drugs from outside of the country because they may not be safe,but everything else we put into our stomach they don't care about.

I haven't bought a tomato from Mexico in years because of the conditions they are grown in. Now what am I going to do?


57 posted on 11/17/2004 1:19:42 PM PST by Mears
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To: Mears

Fight back. You are a sovereign citizen of this country and you can demand that your government desist from these attempts to undermine our food supply safety and our freedom of choice.


58 posted on 11/17/2004 1:21:39 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Howlin
Someone mentioned the possibility of individual stickers on fruits. I can see how that would increase cost, but only minimally per unit purchased.

I can't see a good political reason why they'd pursue this now. People generally like truth in labeling laws, and it's a legitimate exercise of Congressional authority under the commerce clause to require them. I'll withhold jumping to any conclusions, but my guess is that the explanation against national origin labels is likely to be so esoteric that it will make the GOP look like ridiculous big business tools to oppose them.

59 posted on 11/17/2004 1:22:03 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Howlin

Let's say you are a producer of tomato sauce. You buy some tomatoes from California and some from Mexico. Now you need to track where each crate of Mexico tomatoes end up. You need to figure out at what percent by volume each batch of tomato sauce comes from, and by law how each has to be labeled.

Let's say you are a rancher in Wyoming. You go to cattle auctions all over and now, because your meat packer requires it, you have to keep track of where your cattle was born and you have to figure out how to label it. (300lb heifer bought in Canada, sold to packer at 600lb. 50% Canada/50% U.S?)

Strawberry ice cream. Milk from the U.S., Strawberries from Bazil, sugar from the DR. How do you label your Ice Cream?

These are a few examples I could quickly think of that can complicate the whole issue quickly.


60 posted on 11/17/2004 1:23:57 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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