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Can the Pentagon charge Kevin Sites?

Posted on 11/16/2004 1:07:33 PM PST by nothernlights

Was not the reporter under the duty to hand over this tape to military authorities,under the rules of imbeds? If that's the case then strong measures should be taken against Sites. Also has Sites been removed from that Marine unit,because at this point i"m sure his presence is a distraction to the Marines and therefore endangers their lives. Sites has to be removed from that unit at the very least.


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To: Poohbah

Please proofread before posting. I am weary of wading through the piles of gibberish you are wont to post.


161 posted on 11/17/2004 11:06:26 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

He must be getting alot of hate mail because my email was just rejected.


162 posted on 11/17/2004 11:07:44 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: nothernlights
Sites main motivation is self promotion,not making a better war.

Last time I checked, being an ambitious self-promoter is not a crime. If ti was, most politicians of both parties would be in jail.

163 posted on 11/17/2004 11:08:06 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Modernman

Motive is the fist step in proving a crime. At this point I will not discuss this anymore and until the USMC actually announces that the tape was vetted by them, I will assume that he illegally handed over the tape to MSNBC.


164 posted on 11/17/2004 11:15:02 AM PST by nothernlights
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

I sent the puke an email yesterday. I don't expect a response.


165 posted on 11/17/2004 11:23:23 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Make everyday Veterans Day.)
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To: I got the rope
Shooting in Iraq Mosque Angers Muslims

Yeah, they were all so nice and calm before....

This place is turning into a swamp of idiocy that makes DU look like the Constitutional Convention.

166 posted on 11/17/2004 11:24:01 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
If it hadn't been for Sites' betrayal, we never would have heard of this.

Since "this" is a perfectly justified act of self-defense (in the context of dealing with an enemy that shows no compunctions about playing possum in order to spring a trap), who cares whether or not we hear of it?

167 posted on 11/17/2004 11:26:34 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: Modernman
Last time I checked, being an ambitious self-promoter is not a crime. If it was, most politicians of both parties would be in jail.

As desirable as such an outcome would be, I can't support the criminalization of ambitious self-promotion. ;-)

168 posted on 11/17/2004 11:28:58 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: steve-b
This place is turning into a swamp of idiocy that makes DU look like the Constitutional Convention.

Ouch, that left a mark.

169 posted on 11/17/2004 11:31:20 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: steve-b
Since "this" is a perfectly justified act of self-defense (in the context of dealing with an enemy that shows no compunctions about playing possum in order to spring a trap), who cares whether or not we hear of it?

Only the lily-livered pud-pounding armchair warriors who cheer on a war, but do not have the scrotes to watch the results.

I want every would-be jihadist to see this tape. For every one it recruits (who would've been recruited anyway), it will deter two.

170 posted on 11/17/2004 11:33:06 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: nothernlights
Motive is the fist step in proving a crime.

Umm, no it's not. Despite what you might have learned on TV, motive is irrelevant when it comes to actually proving a crime.

I will assume that he illegally handed over the tape to MSNBC.

It is not illegal to hand over video in violation of embed rules. All that can happen is that the reporter in question can be sent home.

171 posted on 11/17/2004 11:34:37 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Polybius
Because America's enemies will not spend a single second analyzing what actually happened and will gleefully portray the video as a clear cut case of murder regardless of the facts.

Oh, puh-leeze. They will portray the occupation of Iraq as a fascist imperialist bla bla bla war for oil regardless of what is or is not made known to the American people.

172 posted on 11/17/2004 11:35:50 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: Modernman
Once again you are wrong motive is always involved in proving a crime and my knowledge of such legal matters does not stem from TV but from being a lawyer. Second you have no actual knowledge of what penalties are attached to breaking imbed rules. Certainly I would refer you to the incident with Mr Rivera,and at the time he was facing a lot more then being sent home.
So please inform yourself and substantiate your pronouncements with facts.
173 posted on 11/17/2004 11:41:14 AM PST by nothernlights
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

I'm thinking this is the equivalent of the bombing of the "milk factory" in GWI. Where is Peter these days?


174 posted on 11/17/2004 11:44:36 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: faithincowboys
Red America

I know what you mean, but I just don't like the sound of it.

175 posted on 11/17/2004 11:45:58 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: steve-b
We hear of it only because the MSM saw an opportunity for a leftist spin. You obviously don't get it. I'm not afraid of the truth, but I am concerned about the effect that the MSM has on public opinion and morale within the military.

As I mentioned before, it seems like only yesterday that I heard Walter Cronkite reporting on his take of the situation in Vietnam after the 1968 Tet offensive. He took a trip to Vietnam and returned with a report that called it a stalemate when most everyone in the miltary was saying the opposite. In fact, we never lost a major battle during the nearly ten years we were there. But how did the MSM paint it? Do you remember?

176 posted on 11/17/2004 11:46:12 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: nothernlights
To the visitors from DUmmyland:

Yes, Kevin Sites is a buttplug who jeopardizes the safety of our troops.


177 posted on 11/17/2004 11:57:55 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: nothernlights
Once again you are wrong motive is always involved in proving a crime and my knowledge of such legal matters does not stem from TV but from being a lawyer.

Um, I guess you weren't paying attention in criminal law. Shall we recap- what are the two elements of a crime? Actus reus and mens rea. If you think mens rea = motive, you really were not paying attention. As an example, tell me, what is the motive of somebody who commits vehicular homicide while drunk driving?

Second you have no actual knowledge of what penalties are attached to breaking imbed rules. Certainly I would refer you to the incident with Mr Rivera,and at the time he was facing a lot more then being sent home.

Please point out any provisions of the military embed rules that allow for penalties other than shipping an embed home:

http://www.militarycity.com/iraq/1631270.html

178 posted on 11/17/2004 11:57:55 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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179 posted on 11/17/2004 11:58:47 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
I'm not afraid of the truth

Nonsense. Your hostility to Poohbah's "let the truth be seen, warts and all" position reveals otherwise.

I am concerned about the effect that the MSM has on public opinion

Public opinion is a healthy republic is shaped by access to as wide a variety of information as possible, within legitimate constraints of national security and personal privacy.

I'm sure that left-wing Democrats are "concerned" about the effect rational economic analysis has on "public opinion" toward their agenda. By your reasoning, Democrats should be allowed to suppress the study of economics.

180 posted on 11/17/2004 12:05:48 PM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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