Posted on 11/16/2004 7:32:01 AM PST by angel90210
I was just watching CBN news and they were saying that one of the largest mosques in North America is under construction in Boston (anyone in Boston aware of this?). The mosque has Wahabi connection and is associated with the Islamic Society of Boston (with Wahabi and terrorist connections). The city of Boston sold the land for 25-50% of its actual value, all without comments from the mayor's office and Boston Globe. What's going on here? We are over in the Middle East bombing Arabs. Something like 70% or more Arabs hate the USA and we're importing radical Islamists right in our midst. It's like lighting a cigarette in a munitions factory.
Yes, we sure must.
Although I really don't know what can be done about it at this point.
Most of them hold down wonderful jobs, wear suits to work, are involved in PTA, live next door, make great neighbors, upstanding citizens.
Until they get the word to 'move forward.'
Remember the one hijacker that lived in Florida? He was all these things. He even left a wife and kids to fly to Boston and from there joined his 'pack' to fly planes into the towers.
This is much bigger then me, I just know it. :(
Muslims make up less than 1% of the US population. Do you really think they will ever reach a level where they will have the ability to impose Sharia law? Despite what some Freepers fear, there really isn't a lot of Muslim immigration to this country. Also, since 9/11 there have been a lot of deportations and emigration of Muslims out of this country.
How about prohibiting immigration from Mohammedan countries before we get to civil war?
I am in favor of that.
I truly hope it never gets to this level in America, or anywhere else in the West.
The key is they will not attempt to take over a whole country in one go although many international Islamic groups like Al Mujaharoun and Hizb ut-Tahrir openly state this is their goal in Pakistan, Europe, Turkey and the US, but will instead chip away at it a little at a time, be it the legal system or control of a particular piece territory, or right to practice sharia as an alternative as they have pushed for in Canada. Once they have bitten off a chunk, they are likely fight to the last drop of blood to keep what they think the have won.
They have done this in the past, taking over areas one at a time and will not hesitate to use democracy as they would any other tool to get power, and then destroy the democratic process that gets them in power in the first place (Algeria is prime example of this, and the reason why they had to cancel the elections there).
I saw this in action for myself on the East coast of so-called "moderate" Malaysia where sharia was imposed using on a frightened populace, but it's also happening in other places such as Nigeria (Sharia vs the Christians). Saudi gasbucks are funding HUGE marble paneled mosques all over Asia, America and Europe. I've actually been in some of these lavish no-expense spared mosques, and have read and heard many of the incendiary sermons from the Saudi financed Imams from impeccable sources.
Aquinasfan, I agree with your posts. By taking a stand now, we put a stop to this spread and will reduce the casualties on both sides. This is why I'm truly upset over the ISB, it's past terrorist connections, and this mosque.
I believe that when Mohammedans comprise 30% of the population they will attempt to impose Sharia law on their communities or states.
I don't know when this number will be reached, but keep in mind that Mohammedans aren't aborting themselves out of existence as we are. The only reason why our population isn't declining is because of immigration, mostly Mexican.
Boston is in hell. Just past the main entrace sign.
You must have missed my earlier post at 109. I'll repost the pertinent part below:
"I read somewhere once that in 1970 the US had a moslem population of about 100,000. Thirty years later in 2000, it was approximately 3 million, realistically speaking (though some of the CAIR etc. groups claim it's double, that's doubtful.)
"So in those 30 years that population increased x30.
"If those numbers hold, in the next 30 years, by about 2030, the moslem segment of the US population will be 90 million..."
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And you should also search out quotes by earlier moslem leaders, I quoted one earlier, the former president of Algeria, Boumedienne, who said "We will conquer your countries through the wombs of our women."
Canada, btw, is already facing the prospect of having to deal with shar'ia law in certain areas in the future, considering the rumblings about it there. Their moslem population is only about 400,000 to 500,000 out of a total population of I think 30 million. Not even 2%.
Thanks for the PSA. Is the West listening?
Let's be honest -- don't most mosques have a Wahabbi connection?
I think it will be far less than 30% of the population that will be the tipping point towards shar'ia.
Please check out my post just above.
Maybe. However, such a massive growth rate would take decades at the very least. Think about how many Hispanics have been flooding into this country and for how long and then realize that they only comprise about 13% of the population. And, unlike with Hispanic immigration, we can shut down Muslim immigration tomorrow, if we wanted to.
I don't know when this number will be reached, but keep in mind that Mohammedans aren't aborting themselves out of existence as we are.The only reason why our population isn't declining is because of immigration, mostly Mexican.
American birth rates, both native born and of immigrants, are increasing. We're at about replacement level these days. Like I said, unless the Muslim population can grow at a rate even higher than the Hispanic population (which includes heaven knows how many illegals every year), they will continue to be a small minority in this country.
Apparently, even some FReepers will not listen to the truth.
*SIGH*
How many churches are open in Wahabi Arabia?
Demographic predictions like that are meaningless. The growth of the Muslim population in this country is primarily due to immigration, rather than births. We can completely shut down Muslim immigration tomorrow, if we want to. You are assuming that this country will remain complacent for the next 25 years.
Canada, btw, is already facing the prospect of having to deal with shar'ia law in certain areas in the future, considering the rumblings about it there.
No, what has happened in Canada is that the law now allows two private parties to have their civil dispute governed by Sharia law so long as the provisions of Sharia law do not conflict with Canadian law or public policy.
The law is exactly the same in the US and has been for decades: if two private parties want their dispute settled by Sharia law (or Biblical law, or Klingon law) they are free to contract to do so, so long as the law they choose does not conflict with American law or public policy.
I worked on a transaction where an Islamic investment group bought ownership interests in assisted living facilities. There are (perfectly legal) provisions in the transaction documents requiring that the facilities be operated in a Sharia compliant manner.
It is in Roxbury - a place I try not to ever go or even drive through.
This is all "thin edge of the wedge" that we're dealing with today.
Yes, perhaps we will not be as complacent in the future as we have been previously, but will our govt clamp down soon enough?
I can only hope.
Do you know that in Michigan, there is actually a bank that now allows moslems not to have home mortgages, in line with shar'ia law?
http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/webnews/wed/di/W059777.RLQj_DNA.html
"University Bank has initiated an innovative mortgage alternative loan transaction (MALT(TM)(1)) origination program to provide persons of the Muslim faith as an alternative to home mortgages to allow homeowners to be compliant with Muslim Law (Sharia'a). Current conventional mortgage products are prohibited by the tenets of the Muslim faith, which forbid the receipt or payment of interest."
As I said, thin edge of the wedge.
There are mortgages, they're just not called mortgages. It's a sham to make mortgages Sharia compliant, but you can be damned sure that the bank is getting its interest payments.
I say kudos to this bank for figuring out how to tap the Muslim market.
So how many Mohammedans are into it? Are most of them cultural Mohammedans?
How deep and widespread is their hatred for the West?
I hope you're wrong, but I'm afraid you're right.
I hope I'm wrong too!
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