Animal task force shows claws

Breederville ^ | Nov 15, 2004

[Gingersnap]

"Say what you will about feral cat colonies, but they do a good job of keeping down the pests."

Sure, as long as your cats don't define "pest" in terms of chickens or meat rabbits.

[Calpernia]

http://www.state.nj.us/sci/pdf/spca.pdf

Excerpt:

The Honorable Reginald Stanton, J.S.C., recognized, but refrained from ruling on, the issue of the constitutionality of the statutory scheme. His comments are compelling:

"The powers granted under the various statutes [regarding the enforcement of the animal cruelty laws, adoption of a common badge, making of arrests and carrying of weapons] are significant law enforcement powers. It is important to note that all of the members of the state society and the county societies are self-selected. They are simply private persons who are interested in protecting animals. They are not selected by the public. They are not subject to managerial control by any public. They are not subject to managerial control by any public officials. They are not subject to any publicly imposed training standards or discipline.

At an early stage in this litigation, it occurred to me that the broad grant of powers to the state society and to the county societies might involve an unconstitutional delegation of governmental powers to the private persons...

...Although I have serious misgivings about the wisdom of granting extensive law enforcement powers to private persons, there is, of course, a vital difference between what I might view as an unwise legislative policy and an unconstituional policy. Furthermore, the record in this action is particularly ill-suited for making a sound adjudication on the issue of possible unconstitutionality of the statutory scheme. I have decided to refrain from any ruling on constitutional issues in this case."

[Calpernia]

http://www.state.nj.us/sci/pdf/spca.pdf

Excerpt:

ARREST POWERS: The legislative provision governing arrests for violations of the animal cruelty laws is contained in N.J.S.A. 4:22-44. It empowers only the state society and not the county societies. Arrests may be made with a warrant or without a warrant when the violation occurs in the individual's presence. Since the provision was first enacted in 1880, the power to arrest has been conferred not only upon the NJ SPCA's officers and agents, but also upon its members. However, nowhere in the statutes governing the societies is the term 'member' defined. Therefore, it includes dues-paying members and those members of the Board of Directors who are not agents or officers. These individuals receive no law enforcement training.

[Calpernia]

http://www.state.nj.us/sci/pdf/spca.pdf

Excerpt:

POWER TO CARRY WEAPONS: Perhaps the most disturbing area of unbridled authority bestowed upon SPCAs is the ability of their officers to carry firearms without being subject to governmental oversight or to most of the stringent requirements governing legitimate law enforcement officers. While some SPCAs do not allow their officers to carry weapons or do not use the designation 'officer' in order to eliminate the firearms issue, the officers of nine SPCAs are armed. Both county and state SPCA officers are exempt under NJSA 2C: 39-6c(7), which empowers SPCA officers to carry weapons in the actual performance of their official duties.

[Calpernia]

http://www.state.nj.us/sci/pdf/spca.pdf

Excerpt:

SPCA Officers in the Bergen and Warren County societies admitted that even though they did not investigate any cruelty complaints and owned no guns before joining the SPCA, they purchased numerous weapons after they became qualified to carry as SPCA officers.

[Coleus]

Obviously, the politicians in NJ have too much time and money on their hands. >>

They also outlawed a type of yo-yo and made a certain type of dirt the State Dirt!

[Coleus]

Thanks, I remember reading an investigative story regarding this issue. It's rather scary since the SPCA really has no police authority or police training and can use weapons while the average law-abiding citizen in NJ can't carry a gun unless they have the explicit permission from a superior court judge!

[Calpernia]

I encourage you to download this pdf file. The crap I'm reading in here is downright frightening!

And there is still no word on what this animal welfare task force proposal was that McGreevey supposedly signed today. And I heard on 101.5 that he just submitted his paperwork.

From the excerpts I've posted on it here, it seems the SPCA is getting expanded powers.

Anyone know if the SPCA and include the definition of human under their animal laws?

[farmfriend]

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[Calpernia]

Most recent information out there says McGreevey was leaving the animal welfare reform act to Codey.

So the current SPCA structure stays in tact for now and we don't know a thing about Codey.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!!

[Coleus]

When I read threads like this, some things come to mind. 

New Jersey surpasses all states in teenage abortion rate and in embryonic stem cell research and cloning and McGreevey and Codey, Catholics, and the rest of the Kooks in the Legislature want to elevate animals created by G-d for us to eat over which we have dominion to the stature of humans which are created in G-d's image and likeness!  In a state where SPCA officials charged Frank Balun of Hillside, NJ, for  killing a RAT! while the unborn are slaughtered daily;  we are sliding into moral relativism. It's just more left-wing, liberal democrat  incrementalism eating away at our liberties and rationality.  I'm hoping that now that the newspapers are aware of this and will be printing stories, things will be scaled down or stopped.

On Atheistic Communism, DIVINI REDEMPTORIS, ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS XI ON ATHEISTIC COMMUNISM MARCH 19, 1937

9. The doctrine of modern Communism, which is often concealed under the most seductive trappings, is in substance based on the principles of dialectical and historical materialism previously advocated by Marx, of which the theoricians of bolshevism claim to possess the only genuine interpretation. According to this doctrine there is in the world only one reality, matter, the blind forces of which evolve into plant, animal and man. Even human society is nothing but a phenomenon and form of matter, evolving in the same way. By a law of inexorable necessity and through a perpetual conflict of forces, matter moves towards the final synthesis of a classless society. In such a doctrine, as is evident, there is no room for the idea of God; there is no difference between matter and spirit, between soul and body; there is neither survival of the soul after death nor any hope in a future life.

10. Communism, moreover, strips man of his liberty, robs human personality of all its dignity, and removes all the moral restraints that check the eruptions of blind impulse.

27. Man has a spiritual and immortal soul. He is a person, marvelously endowed by his Creator with gifts of body and mind

In 1973 two things happened:

1. The Endangered Species Act was enacted where animals, trees and scum in rain puddles became protected under law.

2. Roe vs. Wade where 9 mortals, allowed it to be made possible for Humanity to slaughter, burn, aspirate and sever Human Babies, created in God's image and likeness. Since then, humanity, and the USA,  spiraled in a downward trend.

Touch a turtle egg or its nest, Canadian goose or a spotted OWL and get a yr. in jail and a $50K fine, and don't cut down certain trees or fill in that puddle! abort a child, get paid $750.00. And we wonder why there is NO respect for HUMAN life created in God's image.

This is why we need to inculcate a culture of life in our society in general and in churches and schools (starting in kindergarten) . People tend to think of children as disposable items.

A pro-life education Program

It's a grievous sin that animals and turtle eggs are afforded more protections and rights than a human fetus and baby created in God's Image with a soul.

Genesis 9:3
Every creature that is alive shall be yours to eat; I give them all to you as I did the green plants.

Man:
Kill the humans (abortion) and save the Bears, the spotted owls, the Canadian Geese and the whales and don't crack that turtle egg!! And Give CPR to that dog and cat!

You can get fined up to $10,000 for messing with those eggs and baby-killing physicians get paid government and private money $$$ to kill humans! Go figure.

The Endangered Species Act of 1973

The Endangered Species Act of 1973
ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT OF 1973
Penalties and Enforcement

The number of species listed (plants and animals, NOT humans) as threatened or endangered
Species Information
Threatened and Endangered Animals and Plants
10 FALLACIES IN THE ABORTION DEBATE 
The Endangered Species Program

Page 4 Sec 3 (c)(8) don't crack those eggs, one might end the "life" of a bird, fish or turtle. I guess certain "mammals" (humans) do not apply.

Science and the ESA

The Govt. recognizes that a fertilized egg from an animal is "alive" and protected by LAW (The Endangered Species Act of 1973) and when an "alive" person created in God's image is growing and living in his mother, he's termed and given the moniker of just a blob of "unlive" or not-living protoplasm or tissue which can be aspirated if it's the mother's "choice" to do so with no protections under the 5th and 14th Amendments to the Constitution.

But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for EVERY careless word they have spoken."--Jesus (Matt. 12:36)

In Florida, women dying in bed (Terri Schiavo) have less rights than turtle eggs! (FL Law 370, US ESA of 1973)

 

 

[Coleus]

Sen. John F. Kerry is an expert in giving CPR to animals, I suggest the state hire him to be the head instructor:

John F. Kerry gives CPR to a dead Hamster yet votes NO 6 times to BAN Partial Birth Abortion!!! Tries to save a Rodent and allows the slaughter of human beings created in God's image.  What does that tell you about his Character?

[Coleus]

These are just a few reforms being proposed by leaders of Gov. James E. McGreevey's Animal Welfare Task Force, a group charged with overhauling the way New Jersey handles animal welfare issues. >>

What about "human welfare" issues?

[Seadog Bytes]

Oh Goodie! ...More 'Gov't help' on the way?

Of course ANYTHING can be done if enough money is thrown at it. What all these people never seem to 'get' is the concept of priorities in light of scarce resources.

Best question...? "...How are YOU planning on PAYING for all that...???!!!"
(...We DO all know their standard 'answer', don't we?)

GREAT QUOTE NOMINATION:
"I prefer a small government which may permit some evil,
to a large government which promotes evil at my expense."
-- Michael Lee (mlee@esd.dl.nec.com)

[Calpernia]

ROFL!!!

I love your freeper page.

[farmfriend]

I really like the graphics you use.

[Seadog Bytes]

Take a stand and help with homeless pet overpopulation...
...and protect your property against unwanted 'inspections' by Eco-nuts,
NGOs and OTHER trespassers, at the same time!

...Adopt!

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[Liberal Classic]

Has anyone ever tried to perform CPR on a cat?

[Carry_Okie]

Another task force recommendation would ban chaining or tethering dogs for any reason.

A lot is wrong with this proposal, but I thought I'd demonstrate a single case of how stupid this is.

Tethering a dog is a time-honored and proven training tool in cases where a dog has aquired a destructive behavior. For example, if the dog is killing chickens, then tether the dog next to a rotting chicken wired to about 24 VDC once a day for about an hour over two weeks. Then replace the wired dead chicken with a live one on a non-conductive mat. Then tie the chicken down and put the dog on a leash and try to pull him toward the chicken to build aversion. The dog will quit eating chickens.

Variations on the technique have also been used successfully to teach aggressive dogs to leave children alone. It's a lot better than destroying an otherwise good animal, or burying a dead or maimed kid. Done correctly, there's nothing inhumane about it.

Feel-good rules with no knowledge of or accountability for the consequences.