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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


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To: The Red Zone

I understand that; but I also understand that we're a party being held hostage by those voters.

And sooner or later, there are going to be enough people in the GOP to do without them.

I'm not interested in placating people who sat home in 2000 because George Bush got a DUI in college.


941 posted on 11/13/2004 10:15:14 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: hocndoc

We have established the fact that one of the planks of the party is pro-life; but you simply cannot say that 60 million people went to the polls because of pro-life issues.


942 posted on 11/13/2004 10:17:33 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin
And sooner or later, there are going to be enough people in the GOP to do without them.

In America's present intense ideological divide? Tell me another one.

943 posted on 11/13/2004 10:17:36 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Hildy
MY wing ended slavery, Hildy. My wing believes in the Principles of our Founding Fathers, and fights to defend those eternal truths.

YOUR wing promotes the worst abuse of civil rights; more heinous than slavery. Your wing is literally killing itself because abortion is a CULT of death that devours it's adherents.

Abortion: The great
contradiction
to everything this
Republic stands for.

Please Hildy, I don't want to fight with you. I am speaking the truth to you in all Charity. It is not MY truth, I'm a lowly sinner. Sometimes the Truth is painful to bear, but if you embrace it you will be free.

Turn away from death and embrace life.

944 posted on 11/13/2004 10:17:52 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Henchman

Fine. Let it die. You all have been threatening it for years. Frankly, I'm sick of you all blackmailing us.


945 posted on 11/13/2004 10:18:32 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: The Red Zone
because they would be falling off their chairs laughing at you.

You've been on THESE threads too long.

946 posted on 11/13/2004 10:19:13 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

Hey that plank might as well not be there, is what you're telling us. Sorry, won't wash. The "non pro life" GOP voters have no excuse for not knowing it was there.


947 posted on 11/13/2004 10:19:31 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: hocndoc

You know what just occurred to me: the only "murder" pro-lifers support is the "murder" of the GOP.


948 posted on 11/13/2004 10:20:15 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

Ah, would you sooner be redmailed with the blood of millions of the pre-born?


949 posted on 11/13/2004 10:20:26 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Howlin

You have one thing right: Those who strengthen and give aid and comfort to the purveyors of the Culture of Death are certainly not 'true conservatives' in my book.


950 posted on 11/13/2004 10:20:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin
Well, I prefer to "give" rather than being on the receiving end like we have for the last five years.

LOL! You "give" 24/7.

951 posted on 11/13/2004 10:20:37 PM PST by Artist
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To: The Red Zone

What does that mean?


952 posted on 11/13/2004 10:20:57 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Those who strengthen and give aid and comfort to the purveyors of the Culture of Death

But you believe that people who disagree with you give aid to anybody you oppose; you've said it a thousand times, all the while claiming that YOU are being abused by the rest of us.

To watch you post, you'd think your words were etched in stone.

953 posted on 11/13/2004 10:22:47 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

DUH, you da GOP? You are the one who will be on the short side of this one, either way, based on your views. We win in one way, at least


954 posted on 11/13/2004 10:22:48 PM PST by Henchman (BORK SPECTER. Email your friends and relatives. PLEASE do it now!)
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To: Howlin

FINALLY, you've offered a sound assertion that even I will heartily agree with! WOW! [Now, to make my ears ring, perhaps Hildy will asseret that she is against abortion for any reason except LIFE of the mother, rape and incest. Nah, can't happen!]


955 posted on 11/13/2004 10:23:28 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Artist

I certainly do defend my posts here. Are you in the habit of posting things you don't believe?


956 posted on 11/13/2004 10:23:35 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

Au contraire, we ask the GOP if it is about to commit suicide. Because if it will not represent the womb-bound and see to it that they get at least the same respect that a dog or cat would, then there really is not a dime's worth of difference between the parties.


957 posted on 11/13/2004 10:24:02 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Artist

Good to see you, my friend.


958 posted on 11/13/2004 10:24:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin

blackmailed... redmailed. it's a pun, but deadly serious.


959 posted on 11/13/2004 10:24:54 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: TChris

For the record:

Freeper Vicomte13 wrote the article. It's in the heading of the thread where the author's name always goes.

And I pinged Vicomte13 in the first post, stating: "Outstanding Job! It needed to be said, and the pols in DC need to hear it and internalize it."

I appreciate your concerns, truly. But if you read his article carefully and his several follow-up posts you will see the wisdom of his WARNING:

Toward the end of the article:

"This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us. "


960 posted on 11/13/2004 10:26:06 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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