PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.

"The child is totally her own person."

That is the falsehood that the radical (i.e. unreasonable) anti-abortion argument is built upon, and falls apart because of. The child is NOT totally her own person. Very early on, she is Totally dependent on another person! In order for her to live, she must violate the mother's right to be secure in HER person.
No one has the right to borrow your person, without consent. The right of stopping the seizure is a 4th (and 9th and 13th) Amendment right.

Your post fails the common sense test. In other words, it is false on first inspection and is in no way self-evident; however, those lacking common sense can have it provided by the following four:

Also, you have no idea what the 13^th Amendment was about.

13th. Amendment to the U.S. Constitution Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Most of the States had abortion laws on the books at the time all those amendments were adopted. Once again, your post fails the plain common sense test.

If anything fails the common sense test, it is:

"The child is totally her own person."

In other words, it is false on first inspection and is in no way self-evident; however, those lacking the common sense to first see it, could avail themselves of a wisdom donation by re-reading my post.

The child has to borrow another person. That means the child is not her own person.

Ever heard of "involuntary servitude"? You quoted the amendment, but you don't seem to realize the point I was making. It is that without legal abortion at some point during the pregnancy, the rape victim is being forced to involuntarily serve the rapist's spawn, by carrying it to term against her will.

Slavery is also forced "labor", but I don't need a double entendre to win this argument. In fact, just the 4th Amendment alone, will do.

You have a happy new year, ya hear? When you drink, if you drink, you won't have to worry about harming another person, if you're not pregnant, because if you're not pregnant there is no one inside you who is not their own person who will end up drinking what you drink.

Isn't it funny how the child inside a pregnant person is not their own person? She has a drink if the host person takes a drink. How absurd it would be, to say of an unborn child that "The child is totally her own person." Absolutely absurd.

No I didn't mean by "unreasonable," that you refuse, under any circumstances, to rationalize murder. I'm not asking you to rationalize murder. That's a bit of a cheap shot and you probably know it. I'm asking you to balance two unalienable rights - liberty and life.

We all have a right to life as long as it doesn't infringe on another's liberty.
The liberty I'm refering to in this case is that of a raped woman to be secure in her own person. This is protected by the 4th Amendment.

By "unreasonable", I meant "unable to be reasoned with". Blind. What right do any of us have to use another's person (i.e. their physical bodies), absent their consent, to survive? Why grant the pre-born superior rights instead of equal rights?

If we can't survive without another's person, and we die because of it, no one has committed murder.

I can't believe that a reasonable person would fight against allowing a woman to stop another's seizure of her person under ANY circumstances.

We all have a right to life as long as it doesn't infringe on another's liberty.

This statement is at least imprecise. Liberty does not always take precedence over life. Furthermore, if a mother can be convinced to lower her value of life, her liberty will be permanently constrained.

P. S. Any easy shot is not always a cheap shot ;)

The laws of the 30 states that recognize the unlawful killing of an unborn child as homicide in at least some circumstances. ^{State Unborn Victim Laws}
State: Homicide laws of all 50 states protect human life and the dignity of every human being--especially the vulnerable; laws of many states already specifically protect vulnerable embryonic human beings outside the womb; most prohibit destructive human embryo and human fetal research. National: The present Congressional ban on federally-funded human embryo research explicitly excludes "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death"; existing laws requiring separation between the death of an unborn child in abortion and research objectives using the unborn child's tissues preclude the destruction of human embryos as a means of achieving research objectives. International: Documents such as the Nuremburg Code, the World Medical Association's Declaration of Helsinki, and the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights reject the use of human beings in experimental research without their informed consent and permit research on incompetent subjects only if there is a legal surrogate, minimal risk, and therapeutic benefit for the human subject. ^{stemcellresearch.org - Founding Statement}
It may strike some as surprising that legal protection of embryonic human beings can co-exist with the U.S. Supreme Court's 1973 legalization of abortion.²⁹ However, the Supreme Court has never prevented the government from protecting prenatal life outside the abortion context,³⁰ and public sentiment also seems even more opposed to government funding of embryo experimentation than to the funding of abortion.³¹ The laws of a number of states-including Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Utah-specifically protect embryonic human beings outside the womb. Most of these provisions prohibit experiments on embryos outside the womb.³² ^{CBHD: On Human Embryos and Stem Cell Research}

Hello Vicomte13,

Have you seen these posts from our fearless FReeper Founder:

Move on from abortion? Not on your life!

Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement

Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

With these in mind would you consider a new PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY in regards to Pro-Abort Rudy?

We simply cannot afford Rudy and you have a very persuasive way of writing that would help get the message out that Jim has already so eloquently begun with the threads above and of course his great forum in general.

Please consider a thread on Rudy. I offer any assistance I can and guarantee that all the Pro-Life PING lists will be on there.

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